Lumintop FW3A 2,800-Lumen Compact Flashlight Reviews | Drop

Sep 21, 2019

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An included battery would have been most useful..

The 18650 rechargeable battery is harder to locate than a AA or AAA or a cr123.. Should have been included along with a built in charger... Cost cutting at its finest..

Recommends this product? No

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Oct 2, 2019

kut287The listing doesn't claim to include an 18650, nor does it claim there's an internal charger. You're giving a great flashlight 2 stars because you didn't understand the info provided within the listing, essentially. There's plenty of people who have 18650s and lithium battery chargers. Having a built in charger / battery would drastically change the design and size of the flashlight, and would potentially be less convenient if you had to plug it in when it's empty instead of just swapping it out. You're complaining about buying the wrong product.

Oct 4, 2019

vOidwardYour comments are not worth answering... Go buy a Nitecore, Olight, Fenix, or Surefire and buy a product where manufacturer already solved ALL of issues mentioned and durability and design are far superior to this product.. I changed my mind.. It is only worth 1 star.

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ryfish5

Oct 30, 2019

kut287Carrying an Olight in my pocket right now. I love them. That being said, you will not be getting this kind of power or lumens out of any of those brands you listed without doubling the size of light. The value of this light is an 18650 powered light with a super compact size. The same size as my Olight that only runs a CR123. Your complaint is basically that you bought a Mazda Miata Turbo and it didn't have heated leather seats and a V8. You bought the wrong thing.

Major_Infidel

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Oct 30, 2019

kut287I’m afraid your review doesn’t reflect just how ubiquitous the 18650 cell is to most who are interested in such powerful lights. You criticize 18650s for being less available than a AA cell, which is true, but you say nothing of its relative advantages vis-a-vis capacity and discharge rates. Everyone is equally deserving of an opinion, but not all opinions deserve to be considered equally. In this case I’d say you’re being a bit unfair to a light delivering almost 3000 lumens, in such a small form factor, from a known brand, for only $40.

raz-0

Oct 30, 2019

kut287If you don't know where to get an 18650 easily, you probably should not be messing with this light as it is pushing the limits of the form factor, LEDs, and power source. For example, you can override the thermal protection for just a bit more turbo mode. You can do that as many times back to back as you want. It can end catastrophically if you abuse it. You also can't build in a charger and keep it this small. It is VERY compact. That's half the point of it.

Spon

Oct 30, 2019

kut287You can find 18650 online quite easily. Make sure you're getting an unprotected, flat top that is no more than 61mm. Zebralight sells them on their site if you're worried about getting the wrong kind. You could try a battery store too. Might want to call ahead tho and be specific in what you ask for.

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Oct 31, 2019

kut28718650s are the most common rechargeable batteries in the world, if you cannot locate one despite being capable of ordering this light then I don't know what to tell you. Batteries are intentionally not included because most people who order this light understand these things and already have their preference of battery.

Oct 31, 2019

vOidwardI didn't claim it did.. I said it would have been useful..I can complain about whatever i like and the Thrunite T1 has a battery included and is rechargeable by plugging in a usb. There are plenty of people who know value and pay up for a better product..

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Oct 31, 2019

Logan96No... Actually AAs and AAAs are... And people who plop down a whole 40$are aficionados of what, cheap gimmicky flashlights?

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Oct 31, 2019

SponThank you!

Oct 31, 2019

kut287Not for rechargeables. They are in much more things than you would expect. If you want to stick to AA and AAA lights go ahead, but an 18650 has 4 times the power of a AA so you won't get nearly the same output per cell. I don't see how it's gimmicky by not including the gimmicks you want like a built in charger and an included battery that likely won't be most people's preference. I guess you are just too dumb to figure out how to order a battery.

Nov 1, 2019

kut287Sorry but you're an idiot that can't read the discription before buying a product and blame the manufacturer for your own incompetence. I knew before I bought the product that it required it's own batteries and charger, as did the overwhelming majority of buyers because reading comprehension is something most people learn very early on in grade school. The things you listed are not "issued with the flashlight" they're features. I always have multiple batteries charged for this thing, and I never have to plug it in precisely because the batteries are so common and can be charged externally. The flashlight is also extremely compact for the battery capacity and lumens output, and many people buy it exactly for that reason. The things you're complaining about would make this product undesirable to me and many other people, but you seem to be to self-centered to realize that. I wish you luck in being able to read and absorb readily available information in the future so you don't have to punish manufacturers for your own shortcomings. "My cheeseburger combo didn't come with the free blowjob I thought it would, even though there's no reason for me to assume it that. 1/5."

Nov 1, 2019

ryfish5I don’t care about a 40$ dog walking flashlight enough!! I run Surefire weapons lights on all my kit.. X300 on my Glock and a Scout on my AR. They have not nearly as many “lumens” and cost 1000$ between just those Two lights .. These lights get the shit beat out of the with 10 of 1000s of rounds.. Nobody on my range would be caught dead with a 40 flashlight that I already dropped and cracked the lens on.. for EDC I’ll stick to my surefire Defender E2D or Thrunite

.. all surefires I have been running are cr123a batteries and you always carry spares on your kit.. I’m not a lumens geek, I use what has been proven on the battlefield thanks for asking though..

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Nov 1, 2019

vOidwardHey keyboard warrior ! What do you do with your super duper 40$ flashlight? I did buy a shit can and for 40$ I don’t give a rats ass.. here is 1500$worth of lights on 3 of my blasters.. and BTW.. spend 100$ for the M2R warrior if your piggy bank allows .. this silver thing broke already..

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Nov 1, 2019

Logan96Oh, you mean like click my mouse on amazon once I figure which 18650 it should of came with?? Come to my range and ask one of these nice people about your special 40$ flashlight . Everyone is running 7000$ worth of rifles, pistols,optics, lights on our gear but you know better.

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Nov 1, 2019

kut287Yeah okay now because you and your buddies have a few decent ar-15s with surefire lights on them you're the expert here. I have plenty of expensive gear. It's been a while since I've bought or even been interested in a surefire offering but I don't think they come with batteries so I would assume you figured out where to get those at even though cr123s are way less common than 18650s. So yeah you can go to Amazon and pick out an 18650 based on your preference of runtime or max output or you can ask real nicely for them to do a package deal because "thinking is hard".

Nov 1, 2019

Logan96No, Im just not a blow hard claiming fame over a battery and cheap shit flashlight. And Yes I forgotten more about EDC gear than you will ever know. Soy boy, walk your doggie with your new toy.. And gee, I must be dumb to accumulate 10s of thousands of dollars worth of kit to shoot with Tier one shooters.. Stay on the bench cupcake.

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Nov 1, 2019

kut287You really are the definition of a blow hard. You really don't know who you are talking to when it comes to gear and don't make claims that you know more than anybody about edc gear when you don't know jack shit about flashlights. I never claimed this light is the best thing ever. I just was trying to explain your misunderstandings about it. I have tens of thousands in gear too. You aren't that special. "I spent a bunch of money so I know more" what a moron. I bet you beat your chest and exude ignorance and stupidity everywhere you go, you just strike me as that type of person.

Nov 19, 2019

Logan96Why are you defending a 40$ flashlight that has no practical use other than to see at night whether your dog shit on neighbors lawn or not... Details do not show run times for "its brightest setting.. You have to guess. I guessed right. Useless at highest setting because flashlight Tube heats up nice and toasty. And half the nice people on this thread do not have the time or care about ordering a separate battery that might not even fit.. I cracked the lens already when it dropped a foot onto sidewalk.. It's in the garbage can.. You get what you pay for.. Oh, and who cares about the 2,800 lumens when run time is about 30 seconds!! Why did they omit lumen run time in details of light?? You want a quality little pocket flashlight? Spend 80$ and get an olight or Thrunite that includes the correct rechargeable power source and forget about the gazillion lumen gimmick.. Hope that helps for those who have not wasted their money yet .

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Nov 19, 2019

kut287So again this light was designed by a forum and it has plenty of information out there for runtime. Obviously runtime will vary with different cells so it shouldn't say what it is. The lens is easily replaceable and is sapphire glass, so yeah it can break. It is well known that the highest setting is unsustainable and needs temperature regulation so it doesn't overheat the battery to unsafe levels. It can still sustain as high of an output as any other light this size after it steps down. The highest output is a turbo mode. So sure go ahead and buy an olight that uses proprietary batteries because you are uninformed.

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Nov 24, 2019

vOidwardMy original review said "It might be useful to include a battery".. It turns out that is half of the reviewers complaints. But you and some other dude flame me for being to dumb to know that.. Well first of all if you are a competitive shooter, spending 500$ on a surefire light for an AR-15 that has brutal abuse on anything you need to attach to rifle is no big deal.. Second: The 40$ Lumintop which i bought did not even list lumens/run time for each mode.. Nore does the cheapo website from China that I googled.. What Company that claims, but can't even confirm what type of 18650 battery to buy, doesn't spec out its run times. It turns out super duper TURBO MODE lasts like 30 seconds before light is hot as shit and it switches to a much lower setting.. And.... My 75$ doggie walker flashlights from Olight, Fenix, Surefire, are brighter at 1000 lumens then this thing is.. So move on butt-hurt warriors of no name Chinese knock offs and find someone else to argue with over a toy flashlight that you care so much about!! And most lights attached to a high powered rifle could never ever take the abuse of having thousands of rounds run through it and get dropped and abused like a 500$ surefire scout. So, do your own homework and ya, I made a bad purchase for 40$.. Big fucking deal..

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Nov 24, 2019

Logan96Read my last comment and move on cubscout.. Nobody cares about your opinion or would spend more money on a battery that you have to figure out which one it works with.. Who cares? and the MassDrop listing did not include run times for each mode. And, the 2800 lumen "turbo mode" is a gimmick.. So big deal and who cares for 40$.. All I originally wrote was "it would be useful to include a battery" and you shit a brick.. Move on... Your posts are sophomoric...

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Nov 24, 2019

kut287Sophomoric? Your posts have been nothing but hurling insults from the start and you certainly look dumb for flipping out so much over not being able to understand "flat-top, unprotected, high-drain 18650". The truth is, nobody cares about your opinion, you know nothing and like to spout off like you're a genius.

Nov 24, 2019

kut287Your original review said it should include a battery and a built in charger for $40 and you criticized it for cost cutting when you're spending $500 on flashlights and bragging about it. A built in charger would necessarily have to change the cost and design of the flashlight, meaning you literally don't want this flashlight but want a different one. If you read the description you would know this flashlight doesn't meet your requirements. It didn't list lumens because the light output is variable. It lists the max as 2800 WITHIN THE FIRST SENTENCE OF THE DESCRIPTION. So you can adjust it up and down on a gradient by holding down the power button. It doesn't list run time because that is also variable based on what battery you buy. 18650 cells come in a variety of capacities. Yes, it gets very hot at 2800 lumens before ramping down. That's how LEDs are, when they get bright, they get hot. You have the option of not setting it to turbo if you don't like that, and keeping it at high, which is still extremely bright. At this point, you're literally complaining about physics and/or that this light has a feature that you'd rather it didn't have. I'm sorry that you cannot comprehend that high amperage LEDs draw more power and increased heat output is an unavoidable consequence of high how these electronics work. I doubt you did a comparison of brightness, as I watched several videos on light output comparisons and functionality before buying this thing and it seemed very competitive. I don't understand the Chinese knockoff comment, I haven't found a design like this anywhere, and you're literally complaining about having to buy batteries, so you don't have any flashlights with external batteries... So what is it ripping off then? Nowhere in the discription does this advertise that it is designed for, or supports mounting to an AR rail. You are talking out of your ass in a multitude of ways. Stick with $500 flashlights, I think you truly need products that are idiot proof and usable without instructions. What people are butthurt about isn't the function of the flashlight and you "exposing" it. They're mad that you're an idiot that didn't understand what he bought and are complaining about it not having features that it never advertised as having. They're butthurt that another human can be this dense, and instead of owning up to this being entirely a "you problem", you project this on the manufacturer and fight with other forum members rather than having the smallest shred of self-awareness.

Dec 9, 2019

Major_InfidelCheck the "Drop" listing and the Lumintop website.. Nether give run times for the supposed lumens delivered... Why are you trying to endorse a product to other people when you should know by now its a piece of crap.. Just admit you wasted 40$ and move on.. It is some cheap ass Chinese knock off... Capacity and discharge rates?? Form factor? Stop acting like you split atoms at work.. Its a shitty flashlight people.. Move on.. Get a life..

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Dec 9, 2019

vOidwardWho cares... There are better brands.. Get over it.. I bought a cheap shit flashlight and warning those that have not bought it yet.. I have flashlights that are far better built and are more reliable and you can't tell what the differance is if it says 3000, 2000... It is a gimmick and I am amused that there are 3 idiots that insist that this is the greatest thing since they bought a VHS tape recorder .. move on...

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Major_Infidel

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Dec 9, 2019

kut287Welcome back, Gecko45. The internet has been a far lonelier place in your absence. 😂

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Dec 9, 2019

vOidwardI explained why people who know quality would spend 500$ on a light mounted on a firearm. I never assumed this light is for firearms. I bought it as a dog walker, and stated as such.. You have not read my response properly or just admit you have no clue what you are talking about.. Idiot proof? You are the idiot for assuming what I know or do not know.. If 40$ is your budget limit, my apologies for offending your lack of funds...

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