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Massdrop x Klymit Static V UL Pad

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Massdrop x Klymit Static V UL Pad

DannyMilks

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Aug 8, 2016

Here's a super thorough review from fellow Massdrop member @HubeyDoobyDoo. I think he does a really great job of reviewing the pad, while at the same time offering some eduction about sleeping pad design and construction and how this compares to other pads. Check it out!

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549

Aug 9, 2016

DannyMilksThat is one of the absolute best product reviews I've ever seen. Bravo, Hubert! Bit long but so well done that it was enjoyable for the whole length. Much appreciate all of the detail and critical thinking/comparison - that's the stuff that matters. If we can bring this out in a 23 or 25 inch width, I'm in like flynn. I can live without a dump valve/flat valve but that sure would be nice to have, and if only standard length is feasible I'd have no issue cutting it down to suit me...the only killer for me on this one is the narrower width. Super impressed, this is a real winner and from here forward I think it'll be hard to justify the considerably higher price of the neo air x-lite pads.

ManyMountains

Aug 9, 2016

DannyMilksThat is a really fantastic video review @HubeyDoobyDoo . Thanks for making this!

ArielBiMBa

Aug 10, 2016

DannyMilksThat was a really good review man. Thoroughly enjoyed it :)

Sajor

Aug 11, 2016

StepbystepIf they add width it wouldnt be ultra light anymore.

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549

Aug 11, 2016

SajorWell, firstly, ultralight should be base weight rather than individual pieces of gear, within reason. Secondly, there are a few approaches to making a wider pad while shaving a little weight elsewhere in the design. With a simple air shell like this it mostly leaves you with adjusting shape/dimensions since fabric quantity is the primary concern. There are plenty of bona fide "ultralight" kits that use pads in excess of 20oz...food for thought. I won't do the math, but I suspect if you made it 25" wide and shortened it to 60" the net change would be close to a washout over the current 20x72. You could go shorter and save a touch more or stay long and suck it up buttercup.

Sajor

Aug 13, 2016

StepbystepIf you have a half your gear being ultra light and the other half not, guess what?, your base weight wont be under the "ultralight" guidelines, Klymit is a good company of reputation, they could use lighter material for your over 20" wide pad, but most likely wont bother and if they do , it will be at a premium as they will not have gains on their investments.

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549

Aug 13, 2016

SajorOh, I dunno. Lots of ways to skin a cat. Save a pound on your shelter, add six ounces to your pad, whatever works. Or if a slightly heavier item has merits you like/need and pushes you over an arbitrary 10lb category designation...will you actually notice? Don't think they can - or should, rather - go with anything lighter than 20d for a sleeping pad. That sounds like folly with the current construction/design. One thing that has been really awesome in the last 10 years is the nice ultralight cushy air-up sleeping pads that we have now...even the "heavy" ones are still lighter and more compact than previous choices, apples to apples. I'm at 15oz for my pad now and if I bumped it up 2-4 oz for a little more r-value and a wider width, I'd be a happier cat. I wouldn't bother with worrying about the weight difference, but could easily make up for that elsewhere and still be well under 10lbs. Honestly I don't notice a difference on my back until around three pounds or so anyway, no big deal...just shoot for where you want to be and don't obsess over the numbers, assuming you're making good overall choices to begin with.