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AmJosh
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Sep 18, 2018
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how would this compare with Dragonfly Red. I think they share the same Sabre chip.
Sep 18, 2018
Caiz
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Oct 15, 2018
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I wonder if anyone has done any measurements.. at avrious sample formats, at that. Like, just because device operates well at one sampling format, like handling 32bit 384khz sampling, doesnt mean it will operate so well at another., like 16bit@44.1khz or 24bit@192khz. =) I'm also curious to the quality of the implementation.., otherwise i may as well use my current dacs. ;-) Cheers AmJosh & Massdrop folks.
Oct 15, 2018
Jaggi
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Oct 15, 2018
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I'd be surprised if anyone has gone to the trouble to do that. While it's possible there could be an issue that only occurs at certain bit-rates or sample sizes, it seems unlikely.
The kind of problems that would occur only with specific digital formats are probably all things that would be handled internally by the digital logic in the dac chip or the usb interface chip. Given how widely used these chips are such a problem would have to be fairly subtle not to be quickly detected and fixed by the chipmakers.
Oct 15, 2018
Caiz
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Oct 15, 2018
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"'d be surprised if anyone has gone to the trouble to do that. While it's possible there could be an issue that only occurs at certain bit-rates or sample sizes, it seems unlikely."
It's just a simple test of the device., A little battery for a decent review. It seems maybe more worthwhile then just sampling at one format, and being in the dark about the others..,
"The kind of problems that would occur only with specific digital formats are probably all things that would be handled internally by the digital logic in the dac chip or the usb interface chip. Given how widely used these chips are such a problem would have to be fairly subtle not to be quickly detected and fixed by the chipmakers. " Ohh i must say i find thats not a very true statement. I've found the measurements for devices at various sample formats to be usually very different. This is the sort of common review that used to be done oncee, testing at various sample formats, multi-bit dacs. See, for a guy right, it's important probably to know how one device performs at various formats, since digital audio is, on a contemporary system; being reproduced at different formats., So to be useful, i'd need to know how the device handles native 44.1khz16bit compared to my discrete 16bit dacs already in implementation, before i consider wanting the device myself, for system implementation., if it doesn't beat my current dacs, what interest would i have for implementation? Degraded performance? No, i need to know that... before i pay, And you say commonality of productions, i say look at the topping Taishan, several years in and look at amirs test response, at lawl, unlabeled bit formats to be fair, but look how that device, out of Topping performs,. dive bombs at a common(?) sampling format. Unless this device is converting all sampling formats to DSD internally? :o But anyways, before i pick this device up, i need to know how it performs, and not just at one sample rate,. that's like, i say, measuring a car's speed handling and acceleration at only 1 gear, when in general it will be performing across all four or five, doesn't tell a meaningful story. Running the test battery, with a script, i'd think could be just as easy as running a single test sample anyhow, so what are we considering and looking at, a broken implementation which only shows a glimpse., nope, gotta sett he battery to get an idea for my choice formats.. And a dac operating at different formats, yes can have pretty important and reveling results., Like does it outperforms which of my other dacs at their choice format? Or is it "just good for dsd", because if it's multibit, then yeah, it's supposed to be for multiformat, and if it's for multiformat, im interested in just how well it performs, or i could just digitally line to my cd player, 16bit soundcard, 16bit usb soundcard, 16bit ipod, other multibit dacs, orsomething else. ;-) So i need to know the performance at format, since it's a multi-format device. =) Same thing with 8bit and 24bit (at various sampling rates).., yeup, im not going to pay to degrade my performance, or gamble at that, lol but i am interested in the multi format device offered, in just how reasonably good it is..,
Oct 15, 2018
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