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Whitedragem
185
Oct 8, 2019
Cheers for updating me with usage scenario; if you are going to do streaming as a major part of it; a couple of options are before you.. Get a processor with 2x more cores than you need (for most of the games listed, that would still be a 4 core, and whilst there are a ‘handful’ of titles that make use of six or more, it is generally only for up to ten extra frames per second, which, for streaming purposes, won’t help a lot... (target framerate for streaming will likely be recordings at 60 frames per second... ) -if you want footage of competitive moments when you are gaming at 120 + fps, then you will be better off filming with a panasonic or maybe sony camera recording ‘some cuts’ that include the (desktop) zone and show it ‘in action’ (I’d recommend some phillps lightbar type monitors or a range of projects that can ‘add ambience’ or light the room according to the onscreen action. (I think logitech sell some 2.1 speakers that ‘light up with the action’ and could sit behind your monitor, Harvey Norman have sold them for $200 on a couple of occaisions).. That being said, I would recommend you 16Gb of RAM (definately NO MORE), and aim for a six (true) core processor.. likely the newer AMD platforms (last couple of years) -as they will give best bang for buck, and whilst might not easily hit 150fps+ that a costlier intel setup would offer, will certainly get you 120fps + when you tune games for it.. generally the difference between a high priced intel/nvidia system, could be offered by an AMD/AMD system for a fair bit less, and you would likley wind up with some nice motherboard and video card ‘matched lighting’ systems. For the record I build ‘battlefield boxes’ for many a postal worker (etc), and for a budget of six-seven hundred, I easily hit their 60 fps minimum requirement with systems that last for many years, run silently(watercooling), and look clean/nice. They usually keep the keyboard/mouse/headphones/chair etc over a few builds. I do recommend that if you are going to have any ‘filmed’ moments (ie using an external camera), consider getting a custom keys keyboard (Drop has these) as that will add to the notion of your unique identity. Something like the Russian caps keyboard that has been featured this week, just look awesome and speak retro/pro/gamer very clearly... If I find some specific parts (ie mainboard model and gfx deal) I will update this post with some recommendations... You are in Melbourne area is my guess? edit: (had to leave to get milk for morning coffees) so- I mentioned a couple of options before you... I would look at any processor that gives the highest ‘per core speed’ (raw clock speed) and ideally six cores. Eight (true) cores is a nice want, but, budget prevails... The money saved from buying an ‘over the top’ processor will benefit your video card budget massively.... and would definately net more FramesPerSecond by getting at least a ‘mid range’ graphics card (generally $400ish price points, but, as I do for posties’, spend at least $300 zone on a great video card). So the other option that opens up with grabbing a great six core processor now,.. when games really need six cores ‘minimum’ (which will start to happen given consoles all have seven core processors(previous gen disabled one to increase ‘yield’), with one core usually kept aside for the OS;games have six available...), your ‘extra core or so’, presently being bought to leave headroom for the video streaming will become needed (think the next couple of years),.. when that happens you could move your video encoding, for streaming purposes, to an ‘external box’. These are often on clearance in the JB Hifi bargain bins, and will give excellent performance /exceed most of your needs. Most importantly good ones should offset your CPU, and keep things easy on your rig. This would allow a ‘future proofing’ upgrade option where you won’t even have to open your rig. Not being a streamer myself, I do still understand that many video cards make for great streaming encoders.. Unless the video card has dedicated silicon towards this goal, Memory bandwidth and GPU die (the GFX cards ‘CPU’) will give up some of their area to achieve this. This may affect the ability to Overclock your video card for a ‘free’ 10% performance gain, or even more likely, simply lower framerate overall for the games. Some tricks might be available to you though, and I am happy to continue to help brainstorm solutions once your build goes live... As an example, I used to stream Tomb Raider from a bedroom PC to my loungeroom TV. In 3D. The video card was being pushed really hard, as was the processor... I actually found- enabling my inbuilt to my CPU ‘Intel Video card’, was worth turning on to use as a ‘free’ encoder. (It had been disabled via BIOS for years) In this scenario it raised my framerate by 7-15 frames per second as Steam streaming didn’t need to encode on my CPU or GPU that were being used for gaming. (It did raise the temp on my CPU slightly as now more of it was ‘enabled and in use’). There are always solutions, and what works for others may be outside your comfort zone. To keep things simple is why I am suggesting an AMD/AMD build (both CPU and GPU) as using one software applet, assuming the right mainboard is in your rig, will allow easy overclocking of all your parts for the free 10% of headroom that they usually come with. This level of Overclocking is highly recommended and isn’t going to limit system life or reduce stability etc... That free ~10% is usually the difference between the next step up system.. and if you wouldn’t overclock your rig, buying parts that make it easy an reliable, usually have the extra benefit of ensuring a reliable and quiet build. My personal preference is towards silent systems. I usually undervolt my rigs (generates less heat), and take whatever overclocks I can grab ‘for free’. I presently recommend AMD Vegas as the second hand bargain card (ie a flagship Vega 64 seem to be around $400AUS, and Vega 56 (the true bargain) are in the $300 price bracket.) If you are willing to consider some parts second hand, let me know... I will scour gumtree for some recommendations if you like ;-) If you could tell me your favorite PC parts shop, local to you, I will check over their webpage/give them a quick call, and see what build they can offer that gets you a great reliable motherboard/power supply etc.. That being said, I have an x99 mainboard sitting around, and they use QUAD CHANNEL RAM, (no memory bottlenecks), and have a lot of budget six core+ CPU parts available.. I do like the idea of your local shop sorting you out if you are not 100% confident with System building.. and if the price is within 10% of the best price on the internet, the service/support and warranty handling that they can offer is usually worth it!
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xKore
5
Oct 9, 2019
WhitedragemI do indeed live in Melbourne, I really like how you are definitely aiming to really help me out, quieter systems are definitely nicer as it doesn’t cause a commotion whilst streaming, aswell as streaming I want to record so I want to aim to get at least 256-500gb storage in my pc so my storage doesn’t clog up extremely fast, AMD is definitely the card I’m leaning towards as it performs really well for a budget price and it can handle streaming. I live near a few computer part suppliers (centre com, idigi computers) etc which I can get parts from. I’m also not too fussy on the brands etc as I’m not a picky person I just get what works best, seriously thanks for taking your time to help me, I’m just on the look for a budget gaming pc, preferably 1000$, I already have the peripherals and a 60hz monitor that will work for now, but yea hopefully this is a decent amount of information, please do ask me questions if you have any, (I’m 15 btw) so money doesn’t come in as fast as the average person
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