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fvgoulet
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Dec 12, 2019
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fvgoulet
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Dec 14, 2019
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KennuiYou're correct about the fact that you don't "need" an amp for these to be able to hear sound coming out of them. Yes you should be able to push them to very loud volumes without any amp but they will not be able to properly show what they are capable of if your source cannot output enough power which most motherboards cannot. My pair of Porta Pros, which I had for 50 CAD, sound better in general without amp than the AKG K7XX without an amp.
To drive these headphones to their full potential, you generally need an amp.
I edited my post to better reflect that nuance.
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vken27
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May 13, 2020
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fvgouletmaybe you can tell us which fps games you have played and find it to be so bad in performing that you find the porta pros better. and fyi most gaming motherboard have a fairly good sound card for gaming purposes.
fvgoulet
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vken27A lot of games actually. CS:GO, BF4, BF1, BF5, Apex Legends, OverWatch... And of other games other than FPS.
The AKG K7XX are "usable" directly from my motherboard, but they sound a lot better with an amp. Yes their specs shows that they are dead flat so you can EQ them to your taste and all you want but these are certainly not endgame for me when it comes to gaming headphones because to my taste they sound boring and lacks the strengths of other options at higher and lower prices.
Don't get me wrong, the AKG K7XX have soundstage, but they lack a lot of refinement across the board so it's not as easy than with cheaper options to pinpoint positional sounds because they are melded with other sounds that reduces clarity. In battlefield games where there was a lot of action around me (and it's almost always like that), It wasn't as easy to estimate enemy distance from me in a crowd of enemies as with multiple other cheaper headphones. They did delivered me a "grandiose" experience with a lot of depth in the soundstage but weren't able to deliver enough clarity (or precision) to help me properly understand where exactly were the enemies as with other cheaper headphones.
The thing is that for 200USD, you can get better value for your money than these and you would be able to drive other options better than these alone without an amp.
After experimenting with a lot of other headphones under 200USD, I've actually enjoyed more for gaming the cheaper options like the Beyerdynamics DT990, Koss Porta Pros, Hifiman HE400i and Audio Technica AD900x (I actually owned all of them at some point)
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- Audio Technica ATH-AD700(x,z) (Very similar to the ATH-AD500 but slightly better)
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- And so on... There is so much more headphones to consider before the AKG 7XX that are better without any alterations at this price point (200$ USD)
For options requiring an amplifier that costs less and that are more suited for gaming out of the box:- Hifiman HE4XX or Hifiman HE400i (They are a little bit different but both are very good well rounders for gaming and listening to music)
- So on again... there is a lot of alternatives
To be clear, when the question "Is this a good gaming headphone" is asked, the sub-questions generated are "is there good soundstage on these" and "does the sound signature of these is emphasized on mid and highs so the gamers easily detect footsteps and positional sound queues". The soundstage is important to pinpoint where sound and in-game noises are coming from and the sound signature emphasized on mids/highs helps you in detecting sounds like footsteps and sound queues that could help you know the position in space of an enemy in FPS. For other game types than FPS, I don't really see the point to focus on these sound features as you don't really need positional audio. Keep in mind that communication is key in any game that let you cooperate with other players. All of these headphones mentioned above don't have a built-in microphone. Even if you CAN add a microphone like the Antlion ModMic or the Massdrop MiniMic to a pair of headphones lacking a microphone, this is yet another feature missing from gaming headphones that have a built-in microphone. As of the "open-back" characteristic of all of the above-mentioned headphones, this is a major "issue" if you plan to bring them at a LAN party or a competition. Open-back means they leak sound as much as external sound can be heard when you put them on. This means that if there is a lot of noises around you when you are gaming with these on, you'll probably have a hard time hearing what's going on in your game. In short, they are good for when you game in a quiet room where you don't want to leak too much noise nor be submerged in external noises. If you plan to play in a quiet room with these on, they have a very good soundstage though. TL;DR: No. Considering their price point and their basic features they are not good for gaming by themselves and out of the box. You need expensive other acquisitions (external microphone, amplifier) and equalize them quite a bit to adjust them to game competitively. Side note: I personally find them overpriced, cheaply made and boring. I had to resolder the wiring inside the right driver and had to change the pads to make them comfortable. Even after that I prefer my Hifiman HE400i in general and without any alteration, which I bought new for 130 USD. I wish I tried the Hifiman HE400i before buying the AKG K7XX. They are just better at everything I throw at them.