NoOneTakeThisNameFrom what I've seen other people talking about Zen+ is that they are not meant to replace Ryzen but are even more budget CPUs with integrated graphics.
SparrowHAWXI would expect more budget options + more higher end cpus for about the same price as currently. R3 2200, r5 2600 and r7 2700 will probably offer much better value than current gen Ryzen and not costing too much more
MadDog443well, with any cpu launch i would give it about 2 weeks to let them iron out all the bugs bugs but at this point i would wait for the 2k series unless you need a new cpu today