Well this I guess is Artisan's answer to Civivi, the problem that I have is that Artisan's D2 line is kind of hit and miss, We's D2s were pretty solid . So Im interested to see the reviews when they start coming in. I also have to admit I'm a little let down by this lines mark I enjoyed the swastika/NY Giants arguing with Artisan this one just looks like a low budget Marfione mark.