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Defect
32
Jan 20, 2015
i want to make sure people are getting what they want. The descriptions are very confusing. First of all, there is this note
"Note: At check-out, you can select your actuation force. You will receive 120 springs of each type with your order, for a total of 360 springs."
Yet you claim 62g springs are what modders commonly use for their ergo clears. Except...the "62g Ergo Clear" springs refered to by modders use Korean measurements, which is force to bottom out. The actuation force for 62g ergo clears' spring would be closer to 45. So your advertised 62g (actuation force) springs are much much heavier than 62g springs that modders refer to. Cherry names their springs with force to actuation. So a 45 cherry (spring in stock MX red/blue/brown) is a 60 Korean. A 60-65 cherry (black/green/white) would be a 80-85 Korean.
Just don't want anyone to end up with something other than what they were looking for.
beesings
83
Jan 21, 2015
DefectThank you for clarifying perfectly into a clear example of what MD never does in their ad copy. I don't think I can ever recall something I didn't have to ask additional questions about to see if I was heading into a trap built for the unwary or simply ignorant. I suppose you could argue that 'caveat emptor' applies always, but it's particularly irksome when MD fronts like they give a shit about integrity and honesty.
Defect
32
Jan 21, 2015
beesingsDo not let the text description misguide you.
If these are force to actuation as I suspect:
35g - Lighter than the spring used in MX Red/Blue/Brown. Clear stems and possibly even brown stems will stick on the upstroke. Lube recommended. These can be good for blues/greens/whites. 40g - Slightly lighter than the spring found in stock MX Red/Brown/Blue. Clear stems will have a slight stick on the upstroke until they are worn in. 45g - Same weight as stock MX Red/Brown/Blue spring. Clear stems will be slightly sticky on the upstroke until broken in. 60g - Same weight as stock MX Black/Green/White 62g - NOT the 62g that modders use in "62g Ergo Clears.". Heavier than stock black/green/white. 67g - Significantly heavier than stock MX black/green/white. Heavier than stock MX clear springs, and with different force curve. 80g - Heavy.
They have updated descriptions to say these are compression force
If this is truly force to bottom out/compression force, here is my breakdown:
35g - Ridiculously light. Your keycaps might sit in an actuated position. 40g - Lighter than the spring used in MX Red/Blue/Brown. Clear stems and possibly even brown stems will stick on the upstroke. Lube recommended. These can be good for blues/greens/whites. Stabilizer keys will have issues. 45g - Lighter than the spring used in MX Red/Blue/Brown. Clear stems will stick on the upstroke. Lube recommended. These can be good for blues/greens/whites. You may have issues with stabilizer keys not popping up (stabs are heavy) 60g - Same weight as stock MX Red/Brown/Blue spring. Clear stems will be slightly sticky on the upstroke until broken in. 62g - Most popular ergo clear weight. Slightly heavier than stock MX light springs, which helps it from snagging on the upstroke (even without lube) 67g - heavier ergo clear. I like this weight, though 65g is my favorite for clears. 80g - Same weight as stock MX Black/Green/White
Edit: Korean 62g springs have a slightly different force curve than stock MX, which are more straight line. Korean springs ramp up in force quicker, but the effect is so small you probably won't notice it. Provided that these are quality springs.
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