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_zegna
94
Sep 6, 2017
update and apologies: i didn't read the fine print (sure hope this is a one off as many of us expect to be able to cancel a drop before it ends)...this being only my 2nd drop, i mistakenly presumed all drops came with a cancellation window. Shipping All orders will be shipped by Massdrop.Estimated ship date is Sep 8, 2017 PT.Payment will be collected upon joining the drop. To deliver the best delivery time to members, the request will be submitted to the vendor immediately, making all sales final. Be sure to check the discussion page for updates.
Lyer24
36
Sep 6, 2017
_zegnaYeah, you kinda did skip over the fine print, but also, you would think that people have self-control enough not to join a drop unless they're absolutely certain of their purchase. I'm also a member of HF, and saw your rant on the page about being unable to cancel your order due to these having already been shipped. Frankly, I do feel bad for you, but at the same time what you did comes across as grossly impulsive and rather irresponsible.
Granted, Massdrop has a long-established system that one such as yourself must have grown accustomed to, but again, that does not mean I'm not still baffled by your wanting to cancel your order after having placed it already. If it's any consolation, you could probably sell these off after playing around with them for a little bit without losing too much money.
_zegna
94
Sep 7, 2017
Lyer24-
'grossly impulsive and irresponsible'... ' ...also, you would think that people have self-control enough not to join a drop unless they're absolutely certain of their purchase. ' hey there, take it easy on the hyperbole, Dad! i modded my post both here and on hf once i learned of more info.
this was my 2nd mass drop purchase and I (mistakenly) thought their cancellation policy was in affect. and per your comments of being '' you would think that people have self-control enough not to join a drop unless they're absolutely certain of their purchase.'' well that is fallacious, is it? otherwise massdrop wouldn't have a cancellation policy in affect for the majority of their drops now would they? ...additionally, most places doing retail offer a cancellation policy, thus again voiding so much for needing to be 'absolutely certain'. thanks for the best wishes to find a buyer, should be inclined that route, but also next time please take it easy on the hyperbole per your comments.
Lyer24
36
Sep 7, 2017
_zegnaGranted, I was more than mildly irked myself when I wrote the above, but I don't believe the contents of my earlier message fall too deeply into hyperbole. I admit that I could have cushioned my words a bit, but the end thought would have been the same: whatever inconvenience you're currently experiencing is the result of g̶r̶o̶s̶s̶ impulsivity on your part. Also, I view return policies as mere graciousness on the part of shopkeeps and retailers and the like, and not mandatory. This is a personal thing, yes, but I feel dealings of any kind, once committed to, ought to be final. A great deal of social transactions (both involving money and otherwise) need a foundation of trust tempered by reasonable expectation— the violation of that trust, as in the case of backing out of personal and financial dealings, is deplorable.
Also, if you want to split hairs there is a difference between finding an item not to your liking or not up to spec, resulting in your wanting to return it, and cancelling an order because you're having second thoughts about something. Maybe it's my old-school upbringing that's driving me to say this, but people (not just men, that's sexist— fine, I'm only marginally old-school) should be more decisive and take greater care in their dealings, especially in matters involving money. It's others' livelihoods that are put at risk when buyers waffle, and though you could argue that the burden is on manufacturers and vendors to ensure that their wares are worth consumers' hard-earned cash, I feel that isn't really in question where Massdrop and Fostex are concerned (I admit I'm a bit of a fanboy).
Right, offering a handshake now because I was toeing lines a while ago myself. If the reason you're backing out is due to financial constraint, then I can see why my earlier message might have come across as tone-deaf as well. Sorry.
For what it's worth, these are my primary cans at the moment, and I plan on keeping them even when I move on to my [tentative] endgame, an HD800; the Fostexes are just that enjoyable, though there's a bit of a hotspot in the treble that will bug you on certain tracks. The Sennheisers are barely flagship territory nowadays as far as price goes, but you need one hell of a rig to do it justice, adding the cost of an exemplary amp and DAC to the bottom line. Still, comparatively affordable as it is, they're are priced far out of my comfort zone just now, but are nonetheless a choice I arrived at after years of consideration and planning. That might give you a bit of insight as to why I'm snippy about money and how your complaining (across several sites) about being unable to back out of a buy might have proven irritating.
But enough about that, I already said I was done ranting. I was sincere in my wishing you luck finding a buyer for these, though seeing as how X00 drops are a daily thing now, it might suit your interests to wait until they're comparatively scarce again before putting them up on the market, unless you can afford to absorb the cost of shipping on top of shaving a few dollars off the cost of its being a pre-owned unit. Might as well have fun with them while you can, and share your impressions compared to your other cans. Would make for good forum reading!
kltp567
60
Sep 8, 2017
_zegnaWhen I read your comment, I was indeed surprised that this sale was final as soon as you joined. I agree with you. Based on the facts that everything except this drop allows cancellation, I do think that the hidden final sale notice should be showed on somewhere more prominent.
treeinc
498
Sep 12, 2017
_zegnaDude, don't want them? don't click!
_zegna
94
Sep 12, 2017
treeincwhatever...then massdrop would lose a TON of business if it were 'all sales final' that is why they usually have cancellation options within the drop period.
treeinc
498
Sep 13, 2017
_zegnaSo that wishy washy people can go back and forth until they decide??? Can't see how they would lose ANY business if they ran their business like 99% of the rest of the online companies.
_zegna
94
Sep 13, 2017
treeinclol...massdrop obviously has a cancellation policy in place (as do the vast majority of online companies)..so much for wishy washy....then why do they have a cancellation policy if 'wishy washy' people are allowed to cancel before the drop ends 99% of the time? explain that...it's alright...go back to sleep.
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