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HunterGHall
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Dec 5, 2019
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Hey Dan,
I’m interested in using a small titanium wood-burning stove in one of these tents.
Obviously it will have to be modified with the stove jack. I saw somewhere that you have done this. Any chance you can provide insight on what model stove you use and why, as well as how you added the stove jack and where specifically you think it’s best to put it?
Any insight would be much appreciated… Winter is here! :-)
dandurston
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Dan Durston
Dec 5, 2019
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HunterGHallI bought a medium stove jack from Bear Paw which was fine but I ended up cutting/trimming it so much that I would have been better off to just buy some fiberglass material and make my own. I also didn't have much need for the rain cover because I have a different X-Mid I'll use outside of winter.
I used that stove jack with a TiGoat 12" cylinder stove, which they don't make anymore. Seek Outside's new U-Turn stoves look nice. My stove is a bit too small, so it's nice when it's burning but only last for about 45 min so it goes out pretty soon after I'm asleep. It does make getting up in the morning easier when I have the heat.
I put the stove jack on the end wall and trimmed it to fit as high as possible. That's kinda the only spot because if it was on the doorwall it would be problematic with using the door and the vent would probably interfere. It could also be put through a roof panel but then the chimney would be running over top of you which might be a problem if you sit up in the night and touch it, and that wouldn't work if you're using the inner. So adding it to one of the end walls is best because you can still use the stock inner (even though I am using a homemade bathtub floor here).
I don't have great pictures of the details but here are some:
HunterGHall
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Dec 5, 2019
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dandurstonExcellent, thank you. I was eyeing that U-turn stove as well so it’s nice to hear your endorsement of it. I also assumed the end wall would be the best place for the pipe so that’s another positive.
How far above the top of the XMid do you want the pipe typically?
Is that a one person or two person XMid you are using? Do you think the one person would have enough room? Or not so much? My guess would be no considering the additional bulk of winter backpacking kits.
Regarding making your own stove Jack, I know how to sew so that doesn’t scare me at all, I just have no idea what kind of fabric you are actually talking about to make one. Is this something I can buy on Amazon or rip stop by the role? Obviously my biggest concern is burning the tent down. ;)
I’m excited to try this out. I have a good amount of winter backpacking experience, but this would be my first foray into hot tenting. :-)
Thanks so much for all the insight!
dandurston
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Dan Durston
Dec 5, 2019
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HunterGHallThe U-Turn was recently announced so I haven't tried it, but it does look promising. For the pipe, usually stove vendors have a recommendation of how much taller the pipe should be than the shelter. I don't quite remember, as my pipe was purchased for another tent but it seems like a reasonable length here. I think about 2 feet is what you want. Taller gives sparks more time to cool to minimize burn holes.
Those photos are of the 1P. I don't know if the 2P will work for this because the vent is moved to the end wall (for various reasons). It certainly wouldn't work in the same configuration. I sewed my bathtub floor to occupy the back vestibule so I have more floor area to store gear, but the same thing could be accomplished with the inner and adding a small section of ground cloth to the back vestibule. It's hard to say if this is preferable because more floor area is nice, but more vestibule (non-floored) area is nice too for piling wood, boots etc. Overall I think the 1P works well in the winter (and sheds snow really well) but you probably will want to store some gear in the vestibule.
For the material, here are some options:
https://ripstopbytheroll.com/products/stove-jack-material
https://www.liteoutdoors.com/product/stove-jack-material/ I would create the stove jack, sew it on, and then cut out the original material behind, unless you are skilled and can sew on the stove jack after cutting a large hole in the fly, without messing up the shape of the tent.
https://www.liteoutdoors.com/product/stove-jack-material/ I would create the stove jack, sew it on, and then cut out the original material behind, unless you are skilled and can sew on the stove jack after cutting a large hole in the fly, without messing up the shape of the tent.
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droberts64
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May 6, 2020
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dandurston
dandurston
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Dan Durston
May 6, 2020
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droberts64For stove size, the main considerations are weight and burn times. You can use a larger stove in a smaller tent (if you can fit it in there) and then you benefit from longer burns. The main downside with my stove is that you only get about 1 hour of decent heat from a load, so as soon as you fall asleep it's out. If you turn it down enough to burn a few hours, it hardly provides heat. So a larger stove like the Seek Outside U-Turn in large would be great but hard to fit. The space for a stove is a bit cramped in the X-Mid unless you move the stove out so it's in the doorway and then use the other door at the back. That could work. I doubt I have 18" of clearance. Indeed it's probably more like 12". My stove does glow red sometimes but the fabric never seems to get too hot because it's very cold on the other side of the fabric which keeps is cooled. Hard to say how much clearance you need - I'm just learning myself.
droberts64
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May 6, 2020
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dandurstonI am over 50 so 1.5 to 2 hours is perfect as I am waking anyway. I will wait to see how I do this summer before making a decision and use October to test it out. Thanks!
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droberts64
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May 8, 2020
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dandurstonHave you looked at LiteOutdoors in Alberta and there stoves?
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