Drop + Matt3o MT3 /dev/tty Keycap Set Discussions | Drop

Dec 1, 2017

Hey everyone,
Quick update on the MT3 Keycap set. The dye sublimation process is still continuing on our end. There have been no deviations in production, and we are on track to meet our estimated ship date of mid-late January.
I’ve also got a few more pictures of newly completed kits to share with everyone!
Quick note regarding the Triumph mods, our photo capabilities overseas are not the best and properly capturing the color is a little difficult. The Triumph Novelties Kit photo is not a good indicator of either one of those colors - since each is affecting how the other is photographed.

We’ll update you all on or by 12/15 with the latest info.

12/8 Update: Made an attempt at taking photos...

GaleForce

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Dec 1, 2017

YanboWuAwesome, thanks! Triumph is looking good. A little brighter than I anticipated, like closer to an aqua color? Not really sure, but looks a little off from the renders. Still though, I feel like it'll look nice with the alphas regardless, and can't say I have a preference either way. Also, it could just be the lighting. The one taken closer up looks more like the rendered color for sure.

Slampe

Dec 1, 2017

YanboWuThanks for the update. Pictures are looking great. In the second picture, top right, the MENU key is pretty crooked. Is that going to be an issue we have to look out for, and is there quality control on this issue? I'd hate to wait 10 months for this set and end up with crooked text on some keys and no way to get replacements.

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Dec 1, 2017

SlampeI think the crookedness might be a function of the overall curvature of the center and how it photographs. I have another one here to illustrate.

Nevertheless, we've ordered extra units and will be doing spot checks / QC at various stages. Also, if there are defects, we'll get you taken care of.

Keybler_elf

Dec 1, 2017

YanboWu*sploosh*

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dotparty

Dec 1, 2017

YanboWuI gotta say, the frequency of updates you guys have been giving us on this drop has been fantastic!

srfilipek

Dec 1, 2017

YanboWuIt would be nice if someone learned how to take white-balanced photos.

Slampe

Dec 1, 2017

YanboWuAwesome, thank you. It definitely does look like the curve of the keycap is making it look more crooked than it is. Thanks for the update!

macken

315

Dec 1, 2017

YanboWuLooks good! Hopefully all will be set for production soon.

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Azraelian

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Dec 1, 2017

YanboWuCaps are PBT right? The photos look kinda like ABS, maybe just the lighting ?

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tobsn

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Dec 1, 2017

YanboWuthis still looks really bad, look at the 1u FN, ALT, and MENU. this is not center and crooked...

CarmenOhio

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Dec 1, 2017

YanboWuIt may just be the pictures, but the Triumph teal and the orange look off. The teal is too bright in comparison to the renders, and the orange looks too washed out compared to the red, blue, and Triumph teal.

banana_bread

153

Dec 1, 2017

YanboWuNow even more excited to get these.

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NeonBlackTurtle

Dec 1, 2017

CarmenOhioYea, I’m definitely looking into a refund now.

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NeonBlackTurtle

Dec 1, 2017

YanboWuHow do I request a refund? Those Triumphs are way too bright. The reason I chose triumph was because they looked flat, not neon in color. Unless I can get the beige instead.

Dec 2, 2017

NeonBlackTurtleYou can actually cancel straight from your transactions!
Although I did note in the post
"Quick note regarding the Triumph mods, our photo capabilities overseas are not the best and properly capturing the color is a little difficult. The Triumph Novelties Kit photo is not a good indicator of either one of those colors - since each is affecting how the other is photographed. "
@CarmenOhio @NeonBlackTurtle

Jca66

Dec 2, 2017

YanboWuHow about photographing a single key (one for each color) on a white background? Also, can you provide the RGB/CMYK values for each of the colors? That would allow us to get a better idea of what the colors will actually be.

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amrta

Dec 2, 2017

YanboWuI can't lie that I'm dissappinted by the delay. But I must say you guys have improved a lot in term of communication.

FireBazooka

Dec 2, 2017

YanboWuSo on Matt3o's blog, he posted this screenshot:

" PS: the “super” key in the picture above is the light blue, not the triumph teal. "
Since the light blue in the renders is actually lighter than the Triumph mods, are the Triumph mods in person actually a darker shade than the light blue that Matt3o posted? I'm suspecting this is similar to when GMK posted a washed out image of their Nautilus novelties, and it ended up looking much better in proper lighting.
Edit: My fears have been alleviated, and just like I thought, the actual color way looks gorgeous.

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Dec 2, 2017

YanboWuYes, doing that color justice is probably quite hard – especially with a potato camera. ;-)
I doubt the color is that that extreme in person. And I quite like the neon look as well, so I think I'll be happy with them no matter what. But assuming the table in that closeup is white it should probably look more like this (a turqoise that's kind of close to the one Massdrop uses for various elements on the webpage):

But triumph sets are generally hard to do justice in pictures it seems. A quick Google Image search for "GMK Triumph" gets you like four or five wildly different hues of turqoise, depending on lighting conditions and camera equipment. And the original Triumph Adler keyboards are more or less yellowed, so there's quite a bit of variation there as well. I guess we'll know soon enough, but it would be neat to get at least one photo taken with a DSLR and using a neutral white background.

Geckt

709

Dec 2, 2017

YanboWuomg.... The sculpted tops looks so much more pronounced than that of SP SA's!

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equalunique

475

Dec 2, 2017

YanboWuExtra units? Hm. I could certainly use a pair of 1.5u CTRL/ALT keys, such as those pictured above... Will any of those extras be for sale? ;)

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prospekt

Dec 3, 2017

equaluniqueI wouldn't get any ideas, the extra units are there for replacements for broken/faulty keys, not to be for sale.

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Dec 3, 2017

YanboWuIs it possible to have all Triumph mods in my order replaced with Beige ones? Triumph looks way too bright and glossy. It's nothing like what I was anticipating.

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Dec 3, 2017

YanboWuIn addition to the brightness in color, it also seems Triumph mods are ABS. I am actually confused. Three month of delay for this quality?

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CarmenOhio

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Dec 3, 2017

Carl7onnnThe triumph teal caps are definitely PBT, so don't worry. You can see the texture on them in the third picture. Also, they wouldn't go through the trouble of dye-sub if they were ABS keycaps, as it's easy to do doubleshot ABS. The color definitely looks off, but I'll take Yanbo's word that it's the camera. Either way, I'm glad I chose the beige.

schoolbus

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Dec 4, 2017

Carl7onnnWhere do you get anywhere that they're ABS? Literally nothing or anybody has ever said that.

EugeneDeAwesome

Dec 4, 2017

YanboWuJust wanna check. Does Massdrop ships out only after everything is completed or ships out per kit?

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Dec 4, 2017

schoolbusNo one said they are. They just really look like ABS in the second picture.

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Dec 4, 2017

CarmenOhioI believe it is off. But they might still be brighter than what most of us are expecting. I should've chosen the beige as well.

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Dec 4, 2017

Carl7onnnYeah, even if the colors in that photo are way off it certainly looks a lot different than the initial illustrations. On the other hand, I highly doubt Matt3o would chose a totally different color than the one he first intended. Turqoise is a tricky color. If everyone just sits tight, there'll probably be better photos down the line.

schoolbus

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Dec 4, 2017

caligoI personally think they look fantastic, and I love how much everyone freaks out about pictures of keycaps and how upset they get when they realize that a render is a render.

prospekt

Dec 5, 2017

caligoI recall Matt3o saying that the colors will vary since this is a new project and working with it can conclude in different results. I don't blame him.

Dec 5, 2017

schoolbusThis color really looks like Mito's PuLSE SA instead of Triumph from the render.

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CarmenOhio

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Dec 5, 2017

YanboWuOne request Yanbo, can you tell whoever is taking the pictures to get a better camera to take the next set of pictures? Even an iPhone should be able to take a decent picture of these keycaps, and there's probably millions of people in every major Chinese city with a newer iPhone. The crappy quality of these pictures are backfiring on you guys bad, and people are cancelling and complaining because the Triumph teal is coming across way too bright in the pictures provided. I know it can't possibly be as bright as it looks in the picture, but a better picture would calm a lot of people down.

GaleForce

407

Dec 6, 2017

caligoLike I said way above, I like it either way, but that said if you look at the picture of a triumph keycap being held up to the camera (as you quoted above, as well) that color looks closer to the illustrations. Pretty sure it's definitely a triumph being held as well, because the shot of them organized on the table looks like the same keycaps behind the close-up. Just crappy photo quality, I'm sure.

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kristopher

Dec 7, 2017

CarmenOhioThis is a logical and easy to do suggestion. There is no way MassDrop is going to do this.

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matt3o

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matt3o

Dec 7, 2017

YanboWutriumph mods color is the best of the whole lot, guys! It's very hard to pick it up in photo for some reason. None of the above pictures is remotely close to the real deal. It's actually close to the MD "submit" button :D now that I look at it.
Anyway I'll take decent pictures as soon as I get these damned samples! Right @YanboWu ?!?!?!

Dec 8, 2017

kristopherI don't think it's as simple as this seems. The set itself makes it hard to photograph properly. Kind of like what happened with Plum https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/6ippi3/photos_gmk_plum_is_beautiful/

kristopher

Dec 8, 2017

YanboWuYou're right. Apologies for coming off so harsh. I have GMK Plum and I know what you mean. I felt like I got burned on that drop because the colors were so different than the renders. I was eager to see an accurate photo MT3 triumph so that doesn't happen again. Either way I still have hope MT3 will turn out just fine!

Dec 8, 2017

YanboWuThat teal/turqoise/cyan colour might be a tad tricky, but it's not like there are a lot of intangibles involved: it comes down to the lighting, background, and the dynamic range of the camera used. With a neutral white background, reasonable lighting, and a decent camera that shoots raw, it really shouldn't be that much of a problem.
Also, out of general curiosity: how where the colours selected in the first place? There must have been some kind of physical colour samples, like those sets of ABS slabs with three-letter codes that SP uses – right? Or is it a custom colour mixed specifically for this set, based on reference to a pantone chart?

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schoolbus

1292

Dec 8, 2017

YanboWuNice. That looks much more like the render!
Maybe all the divas can rest a little more easy now.

letze

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Dec 9, 2017

schoolbushahaha :P

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GaleForce

407

Dec 9, 2017

caligoRead matt3o's blog. He talks about how samples were sent to him.

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