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CEE_TEE
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Dec 20, 2017
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Legendary Line As enthusiasts, we hope for a really great experience and value in what we buy. Consistently (for the past 26 years), Sennheiser has been providing great value with a great musical experience in the HD580, HD600, and HD650/HD6XX.  They all use the same driver design and materials. These models are community recommended “go-to” favorite headphones. Massdrop’s own version of HD650 (the HD6XX) has sold over 50,000 pairs during the past year. The only real requests for changes we see have to do with color, comfort, a “veil” to the sound perceived by some, and the amount of amplification they need to sound their best. For colorway, the new HD58X goes back to the HD580 Jubilee roots and is black with dark grey grills. For comfort, the pads do soften over time and the headband can be “massaged” by slightly bending the frame to make less clamping force. There are instructions online explaining how to do this. For amplification, these are a bit easier to drive.  Reports are coming back that these are about 4 decibels louder on portable devices like cell phones. For the “Sennheiser veil” perceived by some... New Driver Unveiling

What has not changed in the HD58X Jubilee? -Still has 38mm dynamic drivers.   -Still audiophile quality.   -Same tooling, comfort, interchangeable 600/650/6XX/660S parts in the rest of the headphone. What is different in the HD58X Jubilee? -300 ohm resistance lowered to 150 ohms.   -Voice coil material has changed, it has a lower electrical resistance. -Diaphragm shape has been revised. -Different damping scheme and acoustic baffle. These changes were made to lower impedance (easier to drive) as well as increase the top end of the frequency range.  In the “air” treble region of 12kHz-15kHz, there is better extension as compared to the HD600/650. The bass rolls off a little earlier than typical for the line as a tradeoff for lower distortion in the area. We have requested an increase to bass extension if Sennheiser can do so without any negative effects by the time of production and they have agreed. These new drivers have been characterized as clearer, faster, and more lively in presentation...without requiring specialized gear.   Audiophiles like to say that the 580/600/650/6XX “scales well” with better gear. The HD58X are designed to perform well “out of the box” with almost anything you plug them into. They're great with your laptop or phone but as with all headphones in this series, you gain a lot by adding a dedicated amplifier. This driver is closely related to the driver in the new HD660S. EDIT: Same size (both 38mm as confirmed by Sennheiser), same materials, there are some differences in the damping scheme and driver housing. This is the newest evolution for the line, another beginning deserved by the line-up that started with the HD580 25 years ago.  Add these to your collection to complement HD6XX/K7XX/HE-350 or start your journey here. Value The packaging will be simplified to reduce cost.  The 600/650/6XX come in hefty “presentation boxes” which may be piling up in your closet. After the first drop, the price will increase in future drops. The magnitude of the increase is unclear pending production of the HD58X. The Massdrop x Sennheiser HD58X Jubilee pays homage to the headphone that started it all and represents the start of the next chapter…
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Dec 20, 2017
Wolfcape
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Dec 21, 2017
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Is this another one that wouldn't make Asia? :( 6XX is due to "previous arrangement" with Sennheiser. So...logic dictates this may be the same.
Dec 21, 2017
Zen-ish
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Dec 21, 2017
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I was under the impression the HD580, HD580 Jubilee, HD600,HD650 all used a 40mm driver and the HD58X Jubilee uses a 38mm driver. Your message seems a little confusing.
Dec 21, 2017
Odinko
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Dec 21, 2017
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you clearly didn't read the post properly then... :)
Dec 21, 2017
Zen-ish
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Dec 21, 2017
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I was trying to be kind in asking because what he wrote had some syntax that could be confusing. The HD58x has a 38mm (36mm membrane) and the HD580/580Jubilee,HD600,HD650, HD660S all use a 40mm. As you can see below he posts:
"What has not changed in the HD58X Jubilee? -Still has 38mm dynamic drivers. "
So why would he say "What has not Changed" in the HD58X? Nothing has changed these are new. He writes "Still" "still has 38mm" from what? What has happened? Nothing has happened concerning changes in the HD58x... why does he use "still"? Then he posts:
What is different in the HD58X Jubilee? -300 ohm resistance lowered to 150 ohms.   -Voice coil material has changed, it has a lower electrical resistance. -Diaphragm shape has been revised. -Different damping scheme and acoustic baffle.
What is the difference? Well one difference is that they have 38mm drivers as compared to the HD580 Jubilees 40mm drivers which he did not mention here. So yes I did read the post... and your puppy is cooler then you. Puši kurac!
Dec 21, 2017
CEE_TEE
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Dec 21, 2017
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Hi Zen-ish, Let me confirm with Sennheiser. Thanks for asking!
Dec 21, 2017
CEE_TEE
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Dec 21, 2017
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Hi Wolfcape. Sorry, this has the same ship to countries as the HD6XX.
Dec 21, 2017
Sondz
Dec 22, 2017
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Свака част буразеру, лепо си му реко'.
Dec 22, 2017
BigBoyLoki
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Dec 22, 2017
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Good Sir, would you be so kind to ask Senn's Management if they can open this one to Asian countries? in the spirit of the holidays, please :)
Dec 22, 2017
CEE_TEE
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Dec 22, 2017
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We will try!
Dec 22, 2017
I_Need_Money
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Dec 22, 2017
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Will there be another drop in the future or is this going to be the only run?
Dec 22, 2017
kAbutix
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Dec 22, 2017
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Stated above " After the first drop, the price will increase in future drops. The magnitude of the increase is unclear pending production of the HD58X. "
So yeah, there will be future release for this unit but price will increase.
Dec 22, 2017
Chaturanga
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Dec 22, 2017
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So after reading so many changes, how one can call this as HD58X . It seems that is a different headphone never existed before. I am not saying bad I think this will be loved over original one. I guess it will have warmer and bassy sound than original HD580. And it will be a good alternative to taste a relatively cheap open back Sennheiser.
Dec 22, 2017
Wolfcape
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Dec 22, 2017
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Hi CT, thanks...I hope you can work this out with Sennheiser, people in my country love HQ Audio gear!
Dec 22, 2017
tubeamplifier
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Dec 22, 2017
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Aren't the drivers of 600/650 are 50mm???
Dec 22, 2017
CEE_TEE
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Dec 22, 2017
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The HD800 uses a 56mm ring driver. Overnight, Sennheiser confirmed that the HD 600/650 drivers have always been 38mm.
Dec 22, 2017
Wally999
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Dec 23, 2017
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What country ? , I might be able to help
Dec 23, 2017
Wolfcape
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Dec 23, 2017
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Malaysia, South-East Asia.
Dec 23, 2017
BigBoyLoki
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Dec 23, 2017
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us SEA people have been left out of this and in the HD6XX. I was resolved in using port forwarding services but my CC and Paypal won't let me pay to MD because the addresses don't match :(
Dec 23, 2017
CEE_TEE
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Dec 23, 2017
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We're trying to see if we can open up to more markets...
Dec 23, 2017
Wally999
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Dec 23, 2017
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I have a friend in the Philippines, and they also can't get this from Massdrop. But since I a have friend that travel to the Philippines ( Airline Pilot) often I was able to purchase the HD6XX for him.
Dec 23, 2017
BigBoyLoki
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Dec 23, 2017
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Fingers-crossed!
Dec 23, 2017
DinoJoe
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Dec 23, 2017
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thanks for the great drops, especially the Sennheiser HD 6xx. Would it be possible to have a thicker gauge wire and ferrite chokes to cancel out any interference?
Dec 23, 2017
tessierpg
Dec 24, 2017
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You just said: « The bass rolls off a little earlier than typical for the line as a tradeoff for lower distortion in the area. We have requested an increase to bass extension if Sennheiser can do so without any negative effects by the time of production and they have agreed ». My question to you: when will you be able to confirm this bass extension ? With graphs? This issue is the main reason i’m holding myself from picking up this drop... I‘m scared that this headphone will have significantly less bass than the other 6 series headphones from Sennheiser. I do not want to get a headphone with too light bass like the HD598. I hope you may give us a straight answer on this soon, with proof using graphs. I would look forward in ordering this 58x lower impedance headphone if the bass extension increase may be confirmed...
Dec 24, 2017
Angra
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Dec 24, 2017
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Thanks Cee Tee! I would love to get in on these amazing Senn drops, especially because the retail prices are jacked up here in Korea! :'( Can't justify paying an extra $50 on a premium product with already high profit margins. Especially when it's been out for over 2 decades...
Dec 24, 2017
I_Need_Money
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Dec 24, 2017
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What do you mean it's been out for over 2 decades? It hasn't been released yet.
Dec 24, 2017
Funkdunk
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Dec 25, 2017
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Is the serial number going to be based on the order we joined in or randomized in that first 500? If it's in order am I getting bumped up every time someone leaves the drop?
Dec 25, 2017
Nick123456
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Dec 25, 2017
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Wow !! This hp looks sexy as hell. Massdrop ur doing a great job, couldnt ever imagined that $150 could get me a legendary headphone.
Dec 25, 2017
dwane5
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Dec 26, 2017
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Dec 26, 2017
Angra
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Dec 26, 2017
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I was talking about the original 580 jubilee/600 design.
Dec 26, 2017
workwork
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Dec 26, 2017
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hoping for a good news!
Dec 26, 2017
Theduuuude
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Jan 3, 2018
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Do these have a mic?
Jan 3, 2018
Theduuuude
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Jan 3, 2018
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Do these have a mic?
Jan 3, 2018
Dj1001
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Jan 3, 2018
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Jan 3, 2018
CEE_TEE
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Jan 4, 2018
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Sorry, these do not. But, this one can be used on many headphones: https://www.massdrop.com/buy/massdrop-mini-mic
Jan 4, 2018
Nick123456
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Jan 4, 2018
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So it has the same 38mm drivers like the hd 600/650 ?? What do you exactly mean by "simplifying the package" ?? We're not getting that premium case right ??
Jan 4, 2018
DinoJoe
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Jan 4, 2018
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yeah just a basic carton package, not like the HD 6XX.
Jan 4, 2018
Nick123456
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Jan 4, 2018
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Thanks Joe for the prompt reply...and its good news for me because the outer packaging will give a one premium feeling when u are unboxing it for the 1st time but then its just a useless pile, although u can store the heaphones in it but is still useless for me as it cannot be used for carrying or other portable usage. I can actually save a lot on shipping charges now.
Jan 4, 2018
CEE_TEE
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Jan 4, 2018
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Randomized & guaranteed serials under 550 for the first 500 purchasers.
Jan 4, 2018
Nick123456
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Jan 7, 2018
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I would like to place a request to ship these to Asian countries, being an Indian a joined the hd 6xx drop and im probably going to join this one too but unlike me most ppl do not trust 3rd party forowarders/carriers. Lot of my friends who wanted a part of the 6xx couldnt even join this one also for the same reason. The sale would be twice if u permit shipping to Asian countries and i do not understand this 'smart distribution policy of sennheiser' anyways....just a request.
Jan 7, 2018
quizzlyly
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Jan 10, 2018
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Is there a way to check if you were one of the first 500. I don't think I am but I can't remember how many were purchased before me.
Jan 10, 2018
BigBoyLoki
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Jan 15, 2018
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Any news on the request of opening this drop for Asia?
Jan 15, 2018
CEE_TEE
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Jan 15, 2018
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Hey BigBoyLoki, We did request opening the drop to Asia and cannot do it at this time. Sorry about this, we'll keep trying!
Jan 15, 2018
Aja12
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Jan 16, 2018
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CEE_TEE can you confirm whether final production units will be made in Ireland?
Jan 16, 2018
CrisPoo
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Jan 18, 2018
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Requesting for the HD58X to become available to Asia (specially PH) in the next drop as this appears to be a great value for the money. Filipino audio enthusiasts would be really happy to have the HD58X :)
Jan 18, 2018
JadMaktabi
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Jan 19, 2018
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Should I get the 58x or 6xx?
Jan 19, 2018
JadMaktabi
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Jan 19, 2018
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Should I get the 58X or the 6XX?
Jan 19, 2018
DinoJoe
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Jan 19, 2018
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Jan 19, 2018
Varholiaglimp
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Jan 24, 2018
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CEE_TEE: Did you ever hear back from Sennheiser regarding the difference in driver size between the HD580 and the HD58X?
Edit -- Just saw your response to someone else:
"The HD800 uses a 56mm ring driver. Overnight, Sennheiser confirmed that the HD 600/650 drivers have always been 38mm."
It will be interesting to revisit advance reviews of the HD58X to see whether the authors revised them to reflect the lack of difference in driver size. I remember reading about all kinds of sonic attributes that were assigned to that (according to Sennheiser, imaginary?) difference.
Jan 24, 2018
PeteMtl
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Jan 24, 2018
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The real question that remains unanswered is whether the bass has been extended in the final production model compared to the pre-production model that has been reviewed by a few people at this time. Here is the original comment from Cee_Tee from Massdrop:
« The bass rolls off a little earlier than typical for the line as a tradeoff for lower distortion in the area. We have requested an increase to bass extension if Sennheiser can do so without any negative effects by the time of production and they have agreed. »
All graphs from reviewers regarding the HD58x show that it has less bass level and extension than either the HD600, HD650/6XX or HD660S and also most probably less than the original HD580 Jubilee, which by the way is the same headphone sonically than the HD600 (they only differ on cosmetical aspects).
So Massdrop, Cee_Tee, may you give us an update on this mod demand? This fact alone could do a difference in my decision to pull the trigger on these nice headphones.
Jan 24, 2018
Varholiaglimp
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Jan 26, 2018
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My sense is that one "real question" isn't being asked in a conversation involving two entirely different questions.
You're talking about bass extension and the amount of bass. I'm talking about driver size and the various reviews I've read that cited the (apparently) nonexistent difference. The conversations that followed sometimes buttressed references to measurements with (apparently) references to an incorrect difference in driver size and drew subjective conclusions that, if valid, must have originated from other differences. It would be interesting to know what those differences really are, and if they apply.
If reported differences were only a question of bass, then I wouldn't have seen references to the entire sound being different. These initial impressions from Marv of SBAF in December 2017 illustrate the potentially wider differences:
"This isn't anything like the HD580 BTW. It's wholly different driver, possibly more similar to HD660S, but also different from that. . . . HD58X does seem thicker and warmer. HD58X might be tiny more veiled than HD650. Measurements say less extension, but nothing I particularly noted. . . ."
As a person who has owned the original (non-Jubilee) HD580s and HD600 since their inception, and who now owns the Massdrop HD6XX, I'm aware of the similarities. However, I would say that the HD580 and HD600 are not the same headphones. They're very similar -- and the Jubilee model (which I don't own) is said to be closer to the HD600 than the original HD580 -- but the HD600 does sound more refined to me (esp. the highs) and is more durable in terms of individual parts. The drivers are more closely matched, but I wonder whether people actually hear that (or know what they hear if they do).
Jan 26, 2018
PeteMtl
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I’m just saying that the bass extension issue is a far more relevant issue with the HD58x than the 2mm driver variation issue. In the end, it’s how they sound the relevant end factor. But whatever, if you feel the 2mm is more important, it’s yours.
Jan 26, 2018
Nick123456
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Jan 26, 2018
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Haha...he might look into the hd 800's 56mm driver if the physical size is all what matters to him the most
Jan 26, 2018
Varholiaglimp
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Jan 26, 2018
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And I'm saying that reviews and threads about how differences in drivers were said to make the HD58X and HD580 sound dissimilar are relevant to me.
The kinds of measurements you might be citing are often taken as gospel, but since there isn't a standard rig used by everyone for measurements, I'll have to assume the differences haven't been quantified because advance reviewers who heard the HD58X didn't necessarily agree with the measurement-verified rolloff that CEE_Tee mentioned. Cf. the reviewer who noticed no drop in bass (referred to in my previous post).
I understand that bass response might be the most important thing to many headphone users, but I am not one of those users. Bass extension does matter to me, but the amount of bass does not.
I'm willing to acknowledge the importance of your question, and I'm interested in the answer to your question as well.
With regard to my question, I don't know whether it's right to judge its relevance unless you've (1) understood all its possible implications or (2) polled everyone who reads comments once the implications are explored (if they ever are).
Jan 26, 2018
Varholiaglimp
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Size has never been what mattered to me. Misconceptions based on the idea that size did matter are closer to my interest, which involves reviews and threads in which measurements or reported limitations shape subjective responses. Knowing those things is helpful, but knowing them shouldn't dictate or tailor the listener's experience any more than peer consensus should.
When those two factors change people's presumptions about kit they haven't heard, and the presumptions become standard parlance, you can expect a different judgment to be handed down much later, as it was on the supposedly unanimous verification of the Sennheiser "veil" (which I remember from when I first joined Head-fi in 2001):
https://www.innerfidelity.com/content/very-important-sennheiser-hd-580-hd-600-and-hd-650
Jan 26, 2018
Nick123456
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Jan 26, 2018
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I completely agree, the sound signature is all what matters, and i also do not care about the bass too much. Mid centric hp lover here
Jan 26, 2018
PeteMtl
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Jan 26, 2018
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relax man
Jan 26, 2018
Varholiaglimp
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Jan 26, 2018
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I'm only discussing every potential difference between the HD58X and the HD580 with you, PeteMtl.
Jan 26, 2018
Varholiaglimp
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Jan 26, 2018
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Agreed! Bass can be fun, but it's too easy to exaggerate. Even slight overemphasis can sound out of character if you're listening to jazz and classical music. The original HD580 does everything well (in my incredibly humble opinion). I'm curious about the HD58X.
The impedance also worries me because I don't listen at high volumes. Sometimes, I'm dependent on physical volume controls that cant to one side level-wise at low volumes. That's especially true with some of my portable kit.
Jan 26, 2018
PeteMtl
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I understand, but you could turn this comparison all around: look at every similarity between the two. Because they arent so many. If you read carefully Sennheiser representative‘s comments on Massdrop (https://www.massdrop.com/profile/Sennheiser) regarding these headphones, you will see that it uses a totally new driver, usused in any other headphone before, and its technology derives from the same as the driver in the HD660S without being the exact same driver. So the HD58x has a different driver than the HD660S, and also a different driver than the HD580. In fact the name « HD58X Jubilee » is only a marketing wink to the Headphone that started the whole six hundred series headphones in the nineties. That’s all. So that is why I find that a driver comparison between the HD580 and the HD58X is irrelevant, and sorry if I do persist and sign. Sennheiser is using new technologies that were not available in the nineties to built the new driver. In the end, I find important to compare the sound qualities of the headphones more than its driver size. That’s all, it’s my opinion, no blame, no susceptibilities, no harm intented, relax and enjoy the music.
Jan 26, 2018
Nick123456
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Jan 26, 2018
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Yeah man, i mostly listen to vocal centric music, and too much bass can lower the clarity. I hate listening to loud volumes because it destroys the overall soft musical tone.
Jan 26, 2018
Varholiaglimp
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Jan 26, 2018
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I've been reading comments on the HD58X on Massdrop and multiple forums for weeks, but you make a good point about fewer similarities versus more differences (if that proves true).
That's particularly relevant to me because there isn't much reason for an owner of the HD600 and HD580 to buy these headphones except as a possible spare to keep at work (if the HD58X lives up to the line).
I've also read several comparisons between the HD58X and the HD660S, which originally was the main point of comparison on many sites, precisely because people assumed they did share the same drivers.
Even though what's relevant to me isn't necessarily relevant to you, I was never discussing driver size itself. I was always discussing assumptions about sound predicated on possible misconceptions about things like driver size.
I think we can agree that the amount of bass matters to you.
I also think we can agree that if the HD58X truly is that different (or dissimilar) from the series, then it's important to know what the HD58X sounds like in its own right.
I'll have another look at the Sennheiser responses.
Jan 26, 2018
Nick123456
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I just want to add an important thing. Tyll said that the hd 660s has the 150ohm hd700 driver. He didnt find the hd 660 as refind as the 600/650, and its lower impedance somewhat helps to achieve good sound through portable players but when connected REAL amplifiers, it does not behave or have those legendary sound qualities. Now ur saying that the 58X driver is based on the hd 660s which has the same lower impedance. Dont know about anybody else but Tyll in specific may not have a good feeling about the hd 58x after his experience with the hd 660s.
Jan 26, 2018
PeteMtl
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Jan 26, 2018
Varholiaglimp
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If the HD58X doesn't scale well, that's a reason for me not to buy it. I read Tyll's review of the 660S, but I didn't retain his comment about resolution with higher-end equipment. Of course, he would say that, feeling as he does about the 660S after realizing the potential of the original line.
Jan 26, 2018
PeteMtl
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I agree, but I want to make it clear that the driver of the HD58X Jubilee is not the same as the one in the HD660S. It was clear from Sennheiser that there is an influence between the two drivers, but they are not the same, the one in the HD58X has not been used in any headphone before. This being said, I agree with you comment.
Jan 26, 2018
Varholiaglimp
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Thanks for the direct link to the Sennheiser posts, Pete. Clearly, I missed a few. "Sonically, the HD 58X Jubilee will mix some of the 'DNA' characteristics of the HD 600, 650, and 660 S, but in a new affordable easier to drive package that provides a great entry into the series above the HD 598. . . . These HD 58X Jubilee are a mix of DNA from the original HD 580 Jubilee (which were a limited run until we released the HD 600 with the same sound signature), the HD 650, and the treble extension of the HD 660 S. So, they are not a direct rebrand of an existing model, but a new member of the family. . . . While we have plied our knowledge and advancements into the driver used in the HD 58X Jubilee, this is a different driver from the HD 660 S. . . . [W]e are continuing to sell the HD 650 alongside the HD 660 S for the foreseeable future... because they are still needed in studios for consistency, and of course the community still loves them. Same story for the HD 600! "
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Jan 26, 2018
Nick123456
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I have a 6XX so i want an upgrade so i was looking at the hd 700. Hd 58X may be a slight alteration of their yummy senn house house which is a great thing and this is a must have hp at only $150 if u r a true senn fan. At this price i could only imagine to get a hd 598... $400 for a hd 700 brand new. Is it a good deal ??
Jan 26, 2018
PeteMtl
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Maybe I care more about bass than you, that could be true. What disturbs me from the different measurement findings that I saw to this date is that the HD58X has less bass extension, and yes, less bass amount as you say it, than even the HD600 and the HD660S (which both have less bass amounts than the HD650/6XX, which is probably my preferred model in the lineup, not that I had a chance yet to listen to either the 58X or the 660S). So yes this disturbs me enough to be reluctent to pull the trigger on these nice headphones, which have the advantage of apprentlly being the easiest to drive of all of these headphones, HD660S included according to the measurements I have seen and that you have most probably too. And Cee Tee’s comments regarding the demand from Massdrop to extend the bass doesn’t really soften my disturbance if I may say it this way. I hope that Sennehiser and Massdrop will give us an update regarding this demand soon.
Jan 26, 2018
PeteMtl
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I’m hesitant and I will be until Massdrop and Sennheiser may give us an update on the bass extension issue and demand.
Jan 26, 2018
Varholiaglimp
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What worries me is this: we could be looking at coloration/limitations that listeners at home might find fun but won't lead to the non-fatiguing studio uses of the original line. Even the HD650 is an excellent fit for basics or a long tracking session.
However the final product might sound, a longtime HD580-600 user who isn't a completist will be taking a gamble with these. The threat of a later price increase as incentive to join this drop might be an attempt to balance (or bypass) that concern.
Jan 26, 2018
Mark_M
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I'm hesitant to join this drop also but I'm so curious. I've already joined the drop for the now ended HD6XX so do I really need this other pair?
Jan 26, 2018
PeteMtl
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You probably don’t need it, except if you want to use it with a lower powered portable unit without a portable amp such as the DFR. That said, not needing it doesn’t mean you shouldn't buy it... it’s a question of personal priorities and budget allocation... have fun!
Jan 26, 2018
Varholiaglimp
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In my view, you don't need to join this drop unless you're looking for the closest thing to the 600 series with impedance scaled to a portable source. I wouldn't think of this as an investment purchase, either, since Massdrop seems to sell collaborations with major brands indefinitely.
And don't take HD58X's place in the reference lineup too literally. As Pete has said, this is in certain ways a new headphone that combines elements of the 660S and 600 series, but may introduce compromises and differences that that aren't characteristic of those other headphones. I found Sennheiser's comments about the distinctions a wee Hank vague.
That bleated, this definitely looks like a fun purchase. If I had scads of money to hurl at nearly everything, I'd join this drop.
Jan 26, 2018
Jderek
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Jan 26, 2018
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Test. Also my previous post was removed. Why?
Jan 26, 2018
Nick123456
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i was very keen to join this drop but after realizing that these are having lesser fidelity in sound overall i had to discard this drop. Now i'm just waiting here for ppl's impression on the sound. Anyways thats gonna take a long time..
Jan 26, 2018
PeteMtl
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This is only the first drop of a new headphone that doesn't even exist at this time (I mean only a few pre-production units are out there at this time). I bet that we will hear a lot more from these in the near future...
Jan 26, 2018
Desdinova12
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Jan 27, 2018
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The HD700 is a different sound than the HD6-- series in a big way. It is far more detailed and clinical than the smooth sound Sennheiser is known for. I would REALLY recommend trying them before you buy. I personally like then, but I like the HD600 much more.
Jan 27, 2018
Nick123456
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Jan 28, 2018
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Yeah man. With binaural recordings like sessions from the 17th ward hp's like hd 700 will shine. Even for movies, especially horror movies, if u r watching at night in a dark room. Massdrop had the 700's for $400 only, always wanted to grab them, but i wanted sennheiser to rectify those treble issues and launch a hd 700 S. But it seems they are more interested satisfying the basic consumers with less expensive hps which is a great thing. Just hope that senn launches a hd 700 S one day.
Jan 28, 2018
Varholiaglimp
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Jan 28, 2018
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That would be an interesting thread elsewhere: “Best Headphones for Horror Flicks.”
For most of my life, artist friends and I have trawled for decent horror films and fiction amid the sea of bad. The best (e.g., Black Sunday, The VVitch, Noctuary), we've returned to religiously and that definitely had an effect on our work.
My closest friend from adolescence became a published horror writer at 17. In my 20s, I wrote a collection of stories that is sometimes categorized as horror (though it’s usually classified as contemporary lit).
Back in the dray (hic!), a writer named Kathy Acker and I watched the entire Dario Argento oeuvre when she lived in NYC. She ended up writing a novel inspired by that binge: My Mother: Demonology.
I take your aesthetic goals more seriously than many would. I hate it when people conflate less macabre subjects with taste. (By that logic, Gautier is a better writer than Baudelaire.)
In my experience, the HD650s do an excellent job with horror spatially; the intended rumbles and foley effects are rendered well, but you also get the soundstage and surrounding details (the presentation isn't flat enough to warrant the descriptor background). The Stendhal Syndrome, with its superb kitsch-fortified soundtrack composed as one long passicaille, works incredibly well with the 650s, even with the iFi iDSD BL Micro.
I'm looking forward to trying other pairings after I retrieve more of my kit from storage (I moved not long ago).
Jan 28, 2018
Nick123456
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Jan 29, 2018
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Haha....i'll watch the last key with my 6xx ...
Jan 29, 2018
CEE_TEE
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Feb 1, 2018
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Yes, made in Ireland just like sample units. Confirmed with Sennheiser. :)
Feb 1, 2018
CamoGeko
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Feb 14, 2018
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I'd love to get them but I have just aquired the PC37x which are also great.
Feb 14, 2018
bsastor
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Feb 15, 2018
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me too. but i got a pair just as well for comparison. These pair will be for life for me.
Feb 15, 2018
Sennheiser
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Feb 26, 2018
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The PC37X are great, still used by many of our gamers at the company! The difference is the HD58X Jubilee has a more neutral, balanced signature while the PC37X are more fun-tuned... and one of them has a Sennheiser microphone built-in too, of course!
Feb 26, 2018
workwork
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Feb 26, 2018
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please make this available in asia...
Feb 26, 2018
bsastor
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Feb 27, 2018
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They would if they could. I am sure they realise the potential market demand in asia.
Feb 27, 2018
DinoJoe
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Feb 27, 2018
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use forwarding service
Feb 27, 2018
bloodpig
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Mar 17, 2018
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Please tune the headphones with more bass i beg you :>
Mar 17, 2018
bloodpig
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Mar 17, 2018
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Please tune the headphones with more bass i beg you too. I would love to wear those everywhere with me and not having to gear up with portable amp. Most of the ppl here are base junkies i know it! <3
Mar 17, 2018
CEE_TEE
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Mar 17, 2018
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The last word from Sennheiser was that they were able to tweak the driver and lower the bass resonance. I'll check in for an update...
Mar 17, 2018
bsastor
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Mar 18, 2018
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Any songs you can recommend listening to with these cans to demonstrate the bass please?
Mar 18, 2018
bloodpig
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Mar 18, 2018
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Thank you very much for that i appreciate it <3 <3 <3
Mar 18, 2018
bloodpig
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Mar 18, 2018
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There are all kind of songs that you can test the performance of the bass. Usually for sub bass i use "Program hostile" song from Crypsis, thickness with "Red water" song from Extize, and energetics + separation in " Eretox 2k" song from Heretik system. Ofc. your choice may differ over styles and personal tastes.
Mar 18, 2018
bsastor
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Mar 19, 2018
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Thank you Sir Pig. I will try those on the PC37X for now until june/july.
Mar 19, 2018
Tup3x
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Jun 4, 2018
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It would be about time to let the info out about the production model. Right?
Jun 4, 2018
PeteMtl
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Jun 5, 2018
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I agree
Jun 5, 2018
Odinko
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Jul 1, 2018
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Reading the post/reply I actually liked it. Well, until the last sentence...meh...
Jul 1, 2018
WILLxLOVE
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Jul 27, 2018
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ever get an answer? I dont want these if they have less low end than 6XX
Jul 27, 2018
austriandude
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Jul 27, 2018
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.. they have more
Jul 27, 2018
WILLxLOVE
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Jul 27, 2018
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any idea why manufacturers say that the low end is rolled off more?
Jul 27, 2018
austriandude
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Jul 27, 2018
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..never read this
Jul 27, 2018
WILLxLOVE
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Jul 27, 2018
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Jul 27, 2018
goldwynm
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Aug 21, 2018
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I'm in Malaysia n received the HD6xx directly from Massdrop. What's the issue shipping this to M'sia for the HD58X?
Aug 21, 2018
Mbot
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Sep 14, 2018
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I've got a 1.5m if you want it (ofc) - $40
Sep 14, 2018
Bhudz
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Sep 14, 2018
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Hello.. can you do something about shipping here in SEA? Ive missed out too many drops due to Philippines not being in the list of countries that you ship to..
I hope that you can do something about this..
Sep 14, 2018
PeteMtl
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Sep 14, 2018
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You may buy 1.2M aftermarket spare cables on Amazon from NewFantasia which are compatible with all 600 series Sennheiser headphones including The HD58x and 6xx. Some of them even include a mic and remote for portable usage with iOS or Android sources
Sep 14, 2018
NotABot
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Sep 14, 2018
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Do a search in the comments about how to get them shipped to SEA. Solution is easy.
Sep 14, 2018
bosouman
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Sep 20, 2018
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Please tell me mastah
Sep 20, 2018
eddiezr
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Oct 3, 2018
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I, too, was cornfuddled by that statement about the diaphragm size. 38mm is very probably smaller than 40mm, according to my understanding of relativity. You have, in fact, spoken to the crux of the biscuit.
Oct 3, 2018
bosouman
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Oct 5, 2018
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ya, why massdrop why.
Oct 5, 2018
caguilar91
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Oct 23, 2018
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For the Sennheiser fans that want an electrostatic, hopefully this project can gain traction to revive the famous HE 60, aka baby Orpheus, with a better energizer. Hopefully it can get endorsed by the community :) https://www.massdrop.com/talk/10100/massdrop-x-sennheiser-he-0-x-electrostatic-system
Oct 23, 2018
CyberDog28
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Jan 5, 2019
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I stopped watching horror flicks decades ago but your three "best" list has got me curious. Dang! ... thanks a lot. ;-) Maybe I'll wait until I get a set of these HD-58X Jubilees. The reviews (now 49 weeks later) seem to indicate better bass and an easy mod improves the mids and upper frequencies.
Jan 5, 2019
Varholiaglimp
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Jan 10, 2019
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Any time, CyberDog28 (where are the other 27?)! Keep in mind that The Witch is recent, Black Sunday is the first great Italian horror film of the 1960s (the director is Mario Bava, originally known for being Fellini's cinematographer), and Noctuary is a collection of short stories by Thomas Ligotti, arguably the most original American horror writer of his generation. If you watch Black Sunday, try to pick up the Blu Ray (they have it at my local library) or DVD and listen to the revelatory commentary by former Video Watchdog editor Tim Lucas. Lucas was one of the best critics of the Nineties and Zeds, and is the author of the most important book on Mario Bava to date, All the Colors of the Dark. I consider The Witch to be the best horror film after Kubrick's The Shining, which I would argue features the best use of classical music of any horror film in history. I grew up studying the music of Bela Bartok under jazz pianist Mary Fields and then under Bartok's protege, Dr. Bela Nagy, and even I will never listen to Bartok the same way after seeing Kubrick's film. I'm a composition major who can analyze every moment of the music in that film, but Kubrick forever changed the emotional context. I don't think that Stephen King can be objective about the quality of the adaptation because (1) Kubrick corrects flaws in characterization of which King seems completely unaware and (2) King is too close to the protagonist in the novel to be objective. In interviews, King has admitted to identifying more with that character than any other he's written. In my opinion, writers who identify too much with a given character also become too invested in portraying that character in a certain light. They become too concerned about what they want the character to be and not enough about what the character is. I'm sure that King would argue his character is more complex than that, but I happen to find his characterization overall to be flat in the Dickensian sense (see E.M. Forster's Aspects of the Novel for some really astute criticism of Dickens, who is King's favorite author).
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Jan 10, 2019
hoeman
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Jan 12, 2019
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Hey BigBoyLoki, may I ask how the forwarding didn't work? Was it denied immediately when you tried to join the drop? Or it processed as pending first and then got rejected days later?
Jan 12, 2019
dpaulku
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Jan 12, 2019
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He prolly means the original product line has been out since the '90s...
Jan 12, 2019
BigBoyLoki
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Jan 13, 2019
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my problem actually is with the payment. My local credit cards aren’t accepted by massdrop for this drop. I’ve also tried my paypal, even that is not accepted by massdrop for this drop.
Jan 13, 2019
Drearo
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Jan 16, 2019
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Add funds to PayPal and pay through PayPal credit funds?
Jan 16, 2019
lockinsocks
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Jan 23, 2019
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I had no problem selecting Paypal as payment for this drop. You either didn't setup your bank account or credit card to Paypal or you don't have Paypal credit.
Jan 23, 2019
eddiezr
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Feb 16, 2019
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Has the price axtually ever increased from $150? Not that I'm asking for it to do that, but I'm just curious why this apparent bogus claim is made? If it wasn't a successful initial drop then the price would've risen?! Questions...
Feb 16, 2019
NeoTheLizard
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Feb 21, 2019
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It has not increased at all, no. I don't know what the plan was initially, but there doesn't seem to be any for raising the price by now.
Feb 21, 2019
eddiezr
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Mar 7, 2019