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Seiko 5 Sports Automatic Watches
Watchyoutalkingabout
Oct 17, 2020
If you were to save the $200 you would waste on this disposable trinket, and repeat that process 9 more times, you’d have a plethora of used, grey market, and brand spanking new Breitlings, Tudors, and Omegas to choose from - all with better movements, better quality, and better value retention.
If instead you insist on wasting your hard earned money, be prepared for wild swings in accuracy, several quality control issues, and eventually relegating this trinket to your wasted-money watch drawer of shame.
You’re welcome. You’re all welcome.
Dermott
267
Oct 18, 2020
Watchyoutalkingabout> and repeat that process 9 more times
Seiko Sport watches aren't catering to the folks that have $2k to drop on a watch. They're an entry level automatic. Nothing at all wrong with that.
The "better" movements you're name-dropping aren't, generally speaking, more accurate. They're fancier. That's got a place, but it's not really a requirement in a functional or entry piece. Properly adjusted, the Seikos will hold to a couple seconds a day, under normal conditions. That's plenty good enough.
JAone
999
Oct 18, 2020
WatchyoutalkingaboutI agree to a point; like I have previously said: but the number of people you are referring to is most likely less than 0.5% of the buyers in this forum.
Many others probably dabble with a few hundred dollars a year for this little "hobby". I say this because I am probably one of them; but I would just get bored shitless if I had to live with just one or two watches!!!
Hell maybe I should just have two pairs of shoes;brown and black, one pair of sneakers ; a two piece gray suit, little grey cap and a bicycle!!!
If I was of that thinking I would probably just buy one of those $400 fancy longlife Casio's or spend a little more on a Seiko Astron either of which would do the job of timekeeping very efficiently and last me to my grave. If someone does have the many thousands of dollars so that they could afford a said Rolex, Breitling, IWC,Panerai or the like then they can also afford to lose the money on the cheaper watches they might be buying for a little fun.
I must say that I do resell many of my watches and the damage is limited by paying some of the good prices achieved on Drop and some other avenues in the first place; if i didn't resell and just keep buying and hoarding then two things would happen.
. I would run out of the money to buy in the next watch. and...
. I would be even more financially screwed after the imminent divorce!!!
Just imagine what "her indoors" would make of 2 Rolex, a Tudor,Panerai,IWC, and 3 Tags!!!!!- Yes no money and two broken kneecaps!!! Some guys know what I mean!!
Watchyoutalkingabout
Oct 18, 2020
DermottNo, the movements are better in higher end watches.
Seiko and myota both make decent movements, but they’re entirely disposable. It’s why they’re available for purchase online for $40 or so. While modern manufacturing techniques mean they will provide timekeeping accurate to a minute in most cases, they’re designed to be replaced and not repaired.
Watchyoutalkingabout
Oct 18, 2020
JAoneId wager that if you added up everything you’ve spent on watches and straps and accessories, you’re looking at almost any watch you’d like to buy. And that’s my point.
You can mitigate your financial losses by selling, but you’re still losing money. $300 isn’t much, but multiplied over 5, 10, 15+ watches and it adds up.
And il not saying it’s all Rolex or Patek or bust. Get on chrono24 or the manufacturer forums. Figure out what good watch the cheap watch is trying to look like, and get the good watch instead.
A pre-owned Tudor can be had for $1500 or so, with its iconic snowflake hands and the field style layout these Seikos are going for. That’s a watch you won’t lose much money on at all if you want to get out of it.
JAone
999
Oct 18, 2020
WatchyoutalkingaboutHey I can add up!! I have ten fingers; well eight and two thumbs, and ten toes. But I would get bored with just the one watch, and on me something that fancy might just look fake!! I would have to sell the Subaru and buy a BMW or a Merc. just to make the watch look real!! Anyway what would I do with my time, and how else would I annoy the wife???
Dermott
267
Oct 18, 2020
WatchyoutalkingaboutSure... like the 16 year old $100 Armitron I've got. It's a shitty Chinese movement. Probably repairable, but why bother? It'd cost more to fix than I paid for the watch, if it ever broke down seriously. Still keeping good time after 16 years, so I'll just run it into the ground and toss it, eventually, when it gives out.
But I bought that watch in highschool, with a bit of leftover Christmas money scraped together from all the relatives. That $100 watch was the gateway to liking watches, not a competitor to a Rolex. I think it served that role very adequately.
Which, to be honest, is why folks coming in and taking the piss on a $200 Seiko bothers me. The folks looking at these most likely aren't looking at Rolexes. Lots of folks can afford a $200 watch that'll last a decade or two. It's a fancier Timex Quartz competitor more than a Rolex competitor. I think that's okay.
ChronoLover
28
Oct 19, 2020
WatchyoutalkingaboutErmmm, that's like saying you can get better deals at salvage auctions than buying a new Corolla. Of course you can get a crazy deal at an auction, but that's not reliable nor consistent. People need to have a reliable source to buy watch with all the features listed, rather than playing the lottery with a 10-20 y/o who-knows-what's-wrong watch.
BeeK86
28
Oct 19, 2020
WatchyoutalkingaboutI believe, you just don't get why most uf us hang out here or on other watchforums.
For the past couple years I managed to by and sell some 50 watches, including several Orients, Seikos, vintage long forgotten swiss pieces, microbrands, resurrected brands etc. I do have an Oris, Ball, had a new Breitling Colt (with the most common ETA movement, that can be found in every entrylevel swiss watch...). Btw. I bought it from a guy who kept it in a safe for 3 months, and when seeling it to me, lost 1000 bucks on it. After two years of wearing it quite often, I was hardly able to sell it for something aroung half of its list price...
Given most of my Seikos or Orients are coming from US, even after paying the local EU VAT, I am way under the EU list price of these watches, or they are not accessible at all, even after wearing them occasionally I am able to sell them preety much the price I bought them for... This applies to all my previous 6 Orient watches, and probably will be the case of my current green Kamasu (with a strapcode jubilee all together for 300 USD it is a better watch than any other swiss entry level diver, for roughly double that price...).
I ordered the SRPE61, I might sell the Kamasu and this will be my toolwatch? Then I get bored with it and sell again... who cares? I will break pretty much even, but the transactions make me happy, discovering different pieces make me happy, experimenting makes me happy. I believe, this applies to all of us affected by this chrono-disease...
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lunagazerpeter
6
Oct 20, 2020
BeeK86I totally agree with your point of view. It's the joy of finding a bargain, then acquisition, then discovery & then keep or resell.
I have about 15 watches presently. The majority of my collection are" tool" watches from all over the world. I have Russian Vostoks, a Komandirskie & an Amphibian. A Chinese Red Star Seagull, an Indian HMT, a Japanese Seiko Alpinist, an Australian Adina Underground, a Swiss (Swatch) Hamilton Khaki & an American hand made Weiss. I've just bought a French Yema bronze Superman via their kickstarter programme which is delivered in February & I'm still after a British Smiths PRS29, (we have to have goals right?). Fortunately I have access to a truly gifted watchmaker of over 50 years with whom I can discuss such matters & receive advice from.
Like any thoughtful horology nut ( it's true ...we are nuts) I love finding both old & new pieces to add to my collection. I acquired an 18kt gold 1965 Omega Seamaster (w/date) in excellent condition for an unbelievable price. A rebuild of the 562 movement, a new high quality leather band, a gold Omega buckle & the watchmaker gives me a written valuation for almost 3 times my outlay. It keeps near perfect time & I'll NEVER part with it. It also beats the hell out of a stainless steel second hand Rolex @ US $5,000...right? I've acquired a very cheap American 1968 Hamilton Electric in original condition. The very FIRST hybrid watch innovation & I love it! I'm awaiting delivery from the states of a very affordable 1955 Longines Tank.
My point is that joy is where you find it & to hell with anyone who disagrees with how we find that joy.
It's never been about money! I have watches that range from under US $100 to US $ 2,200 odd but most are just a few hundred. What's important is that I'm happy with what I do!
andrewebay1
259
Oct 21, 2020
WatchyoutalkingaboutI'm gonna go ahead and chime in here. I've accumulated several watches ranging from $200-$600 and while it allows me to shuffle a bunch of well picked, and well liked (to me) timepieces, I do wish I could have saved longer and bought said higher end watches and just a few more. However, no regrets but the fact that I now know better. Go for the fancier ones even if it means less frequency of purchases. I'll take my current collection and sell off maybe half and keep the other half with the intention as being able to cycle daily drivers and now start a "fancier" collection.
There is no wrong way of doing it, if you enjoy $200-$600 watches then go for it. Eventually you'll want to step up, or not, but when you do - maybe you'll wish you'd have done it sooner so you can have a few fancy ones already in the collection. I know I do..
Thetruth
0
Feb 9, 2021
WatchyoutalkingaboutNot disposable. Your apple watch is disposable though. Sorry we're not all made of money and can't throw shit in the garbage for fun because we dont care about the earth.
Watchyoutalkingabout
Feb 9, 2021
ThetruthCouple things.
1) I don’t have an Apple Watch.
2) I worked for money and saved up to buy my nicer watches.
3) if you actually care about the environment, buying cheaply made asian watches that are produced in countries with lax regulations, shipped halfway around the world, and break down only to be thrown away is probably not the best route to go and instead you should
5) Get a better education, which will lead to a better job, which will allow you to buy a real watch.
Thanks for playing, better luck next time!
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