Showing 1 of 88 conversations about:
UrbanSpaceman
12
Dec 18, 2016
bookmark_border
Even with the fine print you're setting yourselves up for some potential legal issues here guy's. Not a good or clever idea selling these specialist tools.
Dec 18, 2016
Joncof
17
Dec 20, 2016
bookmark_border
Nonsense. Lock picks are readily avaiable these days through Amazon, ebay and countless Chinese sites. Having them on Massdrop is no different - do supplies of guns and knives get into "potential legal issues" when their goods are used by private individuals for illegal acts? No. Hammers? Saws? Pencils? Cucumbers?
Only honest people pick locks - everyone else would boot in a door or smash a window to gain access to property or valuables.
Dec 20, 2016
UrbanSpaceman
12
Dec 20, 2016
bookmark_border
Not sure of the laws in your country mate, but in my country you stand a very good chance of being arrested for carrying lock picks unless you are a certified and registered locksmith business. You are legally entitled to carry cucumbers but Massdrop doesn't sell them.
Dec 20, 2016
Yukon
26
Dec 24, 2016
bookmark_border
I feel that the site introducing such goods is low in dignity. I am ashamed to introduce this site to my friends selling things that encourage crime.
Dec 24, 2016
Buck56
25
Jan 9, 2017
bookmark_border
It in no way encourages crime anymore then a hammer, or rock does.
Jan 9, 2017
Buck56
25
Jan 9, 2017
bookmark_border
In America and most countries they are legal to sell and ship. Carrying them in your pocket for example varies wildly between areas. Even in the same country or even between cities it can be completely legal to illegal only in specific conditions to outright illegal. Just like carrying a firearm or a knife. I don't see people arguing that a knife shouldn't be sold on here or that it is illegal. When many of them sold on this site are outright illegal in many places. Folding blades are considered concealed weapons in many places, assisted blades are illegal in many places, blades over 3 inches that aren't kitchen utensils can be illegal for public carry. Arguing legality of a tool on the internet while not addressing a singular place is pointless.
Jan 9, 2017
daw401
0
Jan 21, 2017
bookmark_border
Or a gun.....
Jan 21, 2017
LopezDeLaGomez
4
Feb 4, 2017
bookmark_border
In the US, you can have or carry lock picks in most states. If you have them under suspicious circumstances you can be arrested but not a big deal for the most part. More likely they'll shoot you and say they thought you had a gun.
Feb 4, 2017
kid1
51
Feb 9, 2017
bookmark_border
thats very authoritarian and frankly messed up. if it were on your person when you commited a crime sure, throw the book. but its stupid to just hit someone for carrying something.
Feb 9, 2017
kid1
51
Feb 9, 2017
bookmark_border
and I can make these in a freaking basement. or I could just break the door.
Feb 9, 2017
Alex25
3
May 3, 2017
bookmark_border
You are so unbelievably stupid. This site specifies in the fine print that these tools are for specialists only, and even then a very low percentage of burglaries (around 6.5%) are committed using lock picks, which is brought even lower by the fact that the 6.5% also includes the use of pass keys. In conclusion, you shouldn't be ashamed to introduce this site to friends because they're selling lock pick sets to locksmiths and firefighters, not criminals.
May 3, 2017
Quarnozian
51
May 7, 2017
bookmark_border
My roommate has a lock on the side gate to the back yard, and forgets to unlock it for the lawn service. Tells me to open the garage (has a door to back yard), but remove tools and anything else worth stealing. (apparently they don't trust the yard guy they hired) That was too much trouble for me, so here's what I've been doing instead.
http://i.imgur.com/91u20ak.jpg The point is, if someone wants to get in, it's going to happen. A thief will not bother picking the lock. they will use destructive methods. (bolt cutters on padlocks, break a window, smash a door lock with a sledge hammer, or smash the door itself if it's a good lock)
These would NOT be useful in any criminal activity. Lockpicking is not fast enough. Provides way too much time to attract attention. Only a complete moron would try to use these for criminal purposes.
May 7, 2017
View Full Discussion