HD58x or HD6XX ?
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I am very confuse for choosing either a HD58x or a HD6xx , after so much searching on the internet I feel like it's more hard to choose which one is better tbh. I want to choose like the best overall headphone (of those 2), price will not be bother me. I will also buy an dac and amp after i decided what to buy... so don't need to worry about am I buying an amp or not. I know they are both good but I just want an answer on which is better... the more I search , the more I lost (for real) . I've heard that someone said HD58x is best overall but theres someone who also said that HD6xx is MORE better in terms on sound quality . Please reply with more simple words but not like "this is warmer" , "this has more treble" , "this has more on highs" , "this is better in lows" ....... I am a newbie to this audio world so I don't know what is those :( Explain with a reason will be great. Thanks in advance !
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ElonMust888
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Nov 10, 2019
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I like the HD6XX better, HD58X sounds too grainy and lack of resolution to me, sounds almost identical when plugged to my 3 amps, including CTH, FIIO Q1 MK2(sounded like crap in balanced mode), and SMSL SAPII; where HD6XX sounds completely different on all 3 amps.
Nov 10, 2019
Shanachai
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Apr 7, 2019
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A significant difference between the two is that the 58x has an impedance of 150 Ohm and is easier to drive while the 6xx has an impedance of 300 Ohm and needs a good amp to perform at its best.
Apr 7, 2019
tooitchy
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Nov 29, 2019
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6xx is easy to run, has a high SPL, which is what determines how hard they are to run. The hardest headphone to run of modern times, is only 50 ohms, (HE-6) yet it's recommended to run them with monoblock power speaker amps because there's almost no headphone amps that can run them, and those that can, cannot supply the current necessary to achieve their full range, they end up sounding weak, lack of punch, dynamics, and bass. This is on 8+ watts per channel amps as well, 50 ohms. The reason they are so hard to drive, is because impedance only affects the output power of the amp, but has no effect on the actual power required to get the driver movin and groovin. So an amp might put out 6 watts per channel at 32 ohms, but do the math, and you see that it's quite a bit lower than 6 watts at 300 ohms, however if the driver only needs like an 8th of a watt because the SPL is 98, then it will run fine, but if that amp is outputting 4.5 watts at 50 ohms, but the SPL is like -78db, then that headphone is not going to run well at all. TLDR: impedance determines the output power of the amplifier being used, but not really indicative of the power needed to run them, SPL is a direct measure of how difficult a headphone is to run, the higher the SPL, the easier to run (most iems are 100+)
Nov 29, 2019
OakParkMusicGuy
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Nov 29, 2019
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Yup. I find the 6XX easier to drive than my AKG 7XX.
Nov 29, 2019
SpeleoFool
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Apr 6, 2019
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Let’s start with what’s not different: For all intents and purposes, build quality is identical. They take the same cables. Both do a good job with every style of music. Whichever you pick, you’ll be happy. Don’t stress about making a wrong choice, because there’s not one. If a wine analogy helps, this is a bit like asking whether a Pinot is better than a Cabernet—the right answer depends first and foremost on your preferences, and your answer may change with the meal you’re pairing. Nevertheless, a good wine is a good wine, and both of these headphones are good in that sort of way. A few months ago I decided to buy either a 58x or 6xx for a longtime friend as a gift, and I sat down to do some A-B listening between the two. Without getting into esoteric audiophile terminology, the overall presentation of the 58x feels more like swing music—vibrant, lively, in-your-face—whereas the 6xx feel more like lounge—chill, sultry, refined. My friend is a metal-head and guitar player, and listening to some of his favorites, guitar riffs were a bit more forward and detailed on the 58x. I got him those, because I figured they’re probably a better overall match for his favorite listening: diving into a wall of sound and rocking out. Meanwhile, I like all types of music, and I enjoy taking in the overall “big picture” of tracks—analyzing layers of instruments and taking in how all the various parts interplay with one another. The 6xx sound is a bit more open; I prefer them over the 58x for the ease with which I can indulge my own wanderings through chill tracks. But I prefer the 58x for things like intimate vocals, heavy rock, maybe EDM. Back to the wine analogy, it takes a certain level of snobbery before a particular wine varietal makes any difference whatsoever to your enjoyment of a meal, and that only develops after plenty of experience, gobs of over-analysis, and a healthy dose of lost perspective. Since you’re coming from a place of inexperience, just pick a flavor—jam or chill—and start enjoying. Get familiar, then come back later and sample something else if you like.
Apr 6, 2019
GonzoChinaski
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Oct 27, 2019
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Well put, sir.
Oct 27, 2019
tooitchy
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dcha12
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Apr 2, 2019
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HD 58X: Uses better-behaved drivers from a HD 700. More treble energy than HD 6XX, but HD 58X is slightly grainy. Also has better extension in the sub-bass. Less "warm" and more neutral than the HD 6XX. HD 6XX: Essentially a HD 650 that's dark blue. Less treble energy, but smooth and well-behaved. Mid-bass hump is tasteful and doesn't bleed into mids. More resolving than the HD 58X; I still consider the HD 6XX one of the most resolving headphones that I've tried. This last point makes the HD 6XX especially transparent to changes in your system; it scales almost infinitely, something the HD 58X can't do. In essence, I think the HD 58X is more "fun" and the HD 6XX is more "serious."
Apr 2, 2019
dcha12
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Jul 19, 2019
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Super late response, but not exactly. HD 58X is like an OLED with some pf the naughty settings on, like increased saturation. HD 6XX is like more "realistic" picture. Granted, they both color the sound in their own way and really, they sound way more similar than different.
Jul 19, 2019
tooitchy
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Nov 29, 2019
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god....no, just no. The 58x does NOT use the hd700 drivers, that's the 660s, the 58x uses a modified hd500 series driver. It is not a 1000$ headphone driver for 150$, stop being delusional, Zeos is deaf and blind, and shilled you all.
Nov 29, 2019
JTULL
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Mar 29, 2019
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is subjective. I prefer the HD58X. you really cant go wrong with either. If you had both you might pick one over the other. if you have only one you will be happy camper.
Mar 29, 2019
erickong
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Mar 27, 2019
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Better is subjective. Everyone has opinions and you can't say that an opinion is right. I like the HD58X because it has some punchy bass. From what I read, the 58X is about the bass while the 6XX is about the analytical sound. That's probably the simplest explanation I can give without throwing in big words and making it convoluted.
Mar 27, 2019
ElectronicVices
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Mar 31, 2019
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I don't see any thing preventing you from trying them out. I will say lo-fi stands for Low Fidelity and is intentionally recorded with pops, static and massive amounts of distortion so it will sound worse every time you move up the fidelity chain.
Mar 31, 2019
SpeleoFool
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Apr 6, 2019
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Hey, don’t knock pops, static and distortion. ;-) Your comment just made me dig up an old favorite and give it a run on the AK380 + Stellias: “Slipping Away” by Nine Inch Nails from the Things Falling Apart EP. I recall reading in an article way back when that the opening beat of that track was recorded out of a blown speaker—it’s absolute mush, but offset against razor sharp synth, strings and vocals, the contrast of that crunchy, flabby bass is just perfect. Another good old use of that kind of effect is “Booty Swing” by Parov Stelar. Vinyl pops and nasally vocals are an intentional flavoring to give that song an old-timey feel, and they absolutely make the track. I don’t really know what “lo-fi” means as a genre (I detest genre labels in general), but just pointing out that even elements like noise and distortion can work well in a highly-resolving setup.
Apr 6, 2019