Jul 18, 20185239 views

Samsung QLED vs LG OLED

Howdy Everyone,
I wanted to create a space here on Massdrop for everyone to discuss the pro's and con's of both OLED tech and QLED tech. There have been many questions in TV drops so far about which technology is better and why. Feel free to post your thoughts or questions you might have about this here. Below is an overview from forbes on the 2018 QLED/OLED Tech to get you started. I would like to keep the thread focused on the 2018 models as there have been some enhancements made in both camps over the last year.
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I hope we see FreeSync LG TVs in the near future.
Q led way better if you want the burn go lg
The reason Samsung isn't making OLED panels isn't because they think their QLED tech is better, it's because LG bought the patents for the tech and Samsung would have to pay LG to manufacture them. OLED is simply the technology of the future. At this point in time the OLED TV's are better in terms of pure image quality. If you're buying a high'ish end TV for the absolute best picture quality, the LG or Sony OLED panels are the way to go. Sony A series OLED has better image processing and color banding gradiation due to their superior image processor technology. The X900F LED TV series also has a similar graphics engine and is absolutely great if you want a low priced LED LCD TV. The difference between LED/LCD and OLED is lighting. LED TV's still utilize an LCD substrate with lighting behind them. You can't get as dark that way but you can get MUCH MUCH brighter. That's important if you are putting the TV in a very bright room. Even a moderately bright room can be tough for last year's models of OLED TV's. Just like plasma TV's of old, you simply can't get the brightness from an emissive picture source, one where the actual pixel emits the light, like Plasma or OLED. A permissive tech like LED backlit LCD, will never get as dark as a permissive tech because you can't turn the light to 0. For most people the difference in tech won't make a huge difference. Personal preference: Now the real personal preference here is with HDR content, which is high dynamic range, or for simple understanding more colors and a larger contrast between dark and bright things. If you like really eye popping bright colors the Samsung sets have always been very good at being able to blast over saturated colors with tons of brightness at you. Many people really like this and it makes for a pleasing experience. Others like true to source material (showing colors in exactly the way film and show creators mastered them) and others like very natural colors or some combination of both. It's difficult to reproduce things as the eye sees them with over saturated brightness and OLED can handle a very wide color gamut accurately without using extremely high levels of brightness, which it has to do since it simply can't reach those same levels of brightness that LED LCD can. QLED: QLED is just a new filter on old tech. Standard TV's would have a filter layer in the LCD sandwich. This would be usually two different sets of filters for polarizing then the latter filter for allowing/shutting off light. Quantum Dot isn't really quantum at all, it's changing those from static filters to a membrane filter that can be electrically manipulated to allow the LCD crystalline substrate layer to have the best performance for color and brightness. This is the pinnacle of LCD technology today.
I have QLED- it is awesome. It has more brights than darks of OLED. The difference between Galaxy vs. iPhone. Nikon vs. Canon. But it is very compatible with most devices. It's almost one year- and I bought for $2500 on Black Friday from Best Buy last year. But it is every penny worth the experience. For something so sensitive I won't take a chance with functionality- and Samsung Smart TV have best intuitive functions.
Let’s be honest here, qled is nothing more than a gimmick for Samsung to sell a more expensive tv by confusing them into thinking it’s similar to oled. Most people will be dumb enough to believe they are getting an oled tv for a cheaper price but more expensive than a normal Samsung 4k. Shame on Samsung!
I believe OLED gets the nod here as QLED is really Samsung's Sudo-OLED. Truthfully, I couldn't justify the price of either, so I opted for a 65" LG in the 9000 range with an AppleTV 4K for the den. Very pleased so far...
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Your wall mounted TV is so much brighter than your desktop mac! Nice setup guy.
Thanks! Tell the truth, I'm not sure that photo does either justice--the TV was in screen-saver mode and the Mac supposedly adjusts it's brightness level to the room's ambient light. That said, I'm not sure I'd like to be staring into the brightness of that 65" screen while typing this response to you ;- )
PLASMA the only way to watch
living fossil
I miss my plasma too. I had a Mitsubishi Diamond Series 50" Plasma. Sadly it would only produce 720p. Impossible to beat the color vibrancy and accuracy as well as the speed of top end plasma's which is equivalence of 600hz. Wish they would not have gone away....
living fossil
I have a Pioneer Elite panel and just got the C8 OLED from LG. OLED beats it only doing slightly worse with very fast motion when they're side by side. The black levels on the OLED are better than the best Pioneer Elite blacks.
Samsung made AND PATONED QLED/AMOLED/OLED sooo ......
I feel Samsung LED is more better.
OLED definitely looks better but which technology is better depends on how you take care of your electronics. Burn in only happens if you are careless with your electronics.
careless how? any tips on maintenance or avoiding the burn in?
Vary your content. If you play the same video game or watch the same cable news channel endlessly, OLED is not a good choice because persistent on-screen graphics or HUD elements can cause BI.
OLED has the best image quality. QLED colors looks fake.
QLED is the winner for me. I own an LG OLED. The one reason why OLED is not the winner in my book: burn-in and the way LG handles burn-in. Plain and simple.
LG OLED is thew superior technology. It may cost more but having viewed countless TV's while visiting the largest Tech Department store in Japan I can safely say OLED not QLED is the clear winner. (Easily 200)
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Clear winner, except LED TV's are slightly brighter.
I also have an LG Oled - Burn in is real and there is a difference between image retention and burn in (dead pixels). OLED are famous for burn-in. Don’t believe the LG propaganda about being careless. LG customer service is horrible with this
I have both samsung is the clear winner it is giving Dolby vision run for his money. Finally ssmsung figure it out what normal people like bright and rich color any most of the Androide people have samsung phone also. Olad nice and over price. Horrible web os.
QLED - insane color volume, banding issues, uniformity issues, viewing angle issues, way over-priced. OLED - the new plasma, blacker than a cave at midnight, will burn-in if you're blasting out all of the nits, prices falling. When I first saw a QLED TV I said "wow", when I first saw an OLED I was speechless.
Samsung has finally decided to get into the OLED game, but it will be a few years until they have a product. As you move from side to side on a QLED, the color of the picture fades dramatically, but it doesn't on a OLED. Add in Dolby Vision, and I couldn't pass up on the LG OLED 65". Also, there is a lot of content on Netflix with only Dolby Vision and not HDR.
I'd go with QLED for a few reasons, feel free to disagree; but I like the brightness and the colours of QLED. I also like that there's no burn in potential, and that they're a little cheaper. I do think that side by side, a QLED and OLED look pretty similar in quality, except for brightness and colour accuracy.
I strongly prefer my basement ceiling-mounted projector. I find a reflected image much more lifelike than an emitted image. My upstairs set is a Samsung plasma, which replaced my Panasonic plasma. My projector is much easier on my eyes.
CRT is the way of the fuuuUuuuuture
So true! Real videophiles appreciate the buttery smoothness and warm glow that only tube TVs can deliver.
I would warn anyone considering an OLED to be extremely careful. I own a 2016 OLED C6. Thing was my pride and joy out of the box. I picked up a new 5th gen Apple TV with support for Dolby vision and use directv now for my cable provider. I had the tv and appletv setup properly, but I walked out of the room to do some work in the the office and when I came back the picture had frozen. i immediately turned it off and ran the clear panel noise. Didn’t fix it. Now for any gray or white scenes, which there are a lot of I’m now realizing, have a big banner ghost across the picture. It bothered me to the point the OLED is now in the bedroom and picked up a 900F. I love this sony, but man did that OLED ruin LED for me. The slightest blooming irritates me. It does get crazy bright and the picture quality is great. Just be careful if you must have the OLED. My bottom line would be to wait until they sort it out. Yes the PQ is mind blowing, but I don’t want to have to babysit my tv for fear my $2000-$3000 will spontaneously catch fire.
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Wrong. OLEDs still have this issue. It’s an inherent issue with the tech as some pixels wear unevenly with bright static objects like news emblems and gaming HUDs. I advise you check your sources. I still think when it comes to picture quality OLED beats everything handily. However, they haven’t completely solved burn in. https://youtu.be/nOcLasaRCzY
Unless you work within the realm of OLED tv manufacturing or you have subject specific knowledge in the form of proof, you should keep your assumptions and blanket statements to yourself. We in the tech enthusiast industry appreciate fair warnings, but ones that have backing. I know 4 OLED owners. Of the 4, none have had any pixel degradation or burn in over the years. I am not saying that the issue doesnt exist. I am stating that the sheer lack of evidence in mass lends itself to the idea that it does not exist in EVERY panel on the market. Can you prove otherwise? Case in point; Stop spreading fear in the TV community. You got a bad panel aka a lemon. That does not mean that EVERY other OLED buyer will also.
I've owned an LG OLED B6 for a couple of years - the B-series is the "entry level" LG OLED vs the E-series which has a built-in Harman/Kardon soundbar [or speaker system depending on the year; it looks like for the 2018 models the soundbar has been ditched for some speakers that don't sound all that great so that's quite disappointing]. OLED TVs are better suited for darker rooms and environments, as each individual pixel can turn on and off so there is no backlight behind the diode array. Therefore the maximum brightness of the TV is usually about half that of an equivalent LED TV, so in brighter environments the OLED's performance will suffer. However, because each pixel is capable of turning on and off it produces a contrast ratio that is essentially infinite. This is why OLED TVs are continually praised for how "inky" their blacks are, whereas a traditional LED TV is always going to have that backlight behind the diode array so it will never be able to recreate a "true" black color.
QLED is a marketing term more than anything else - the Samsung is still at heart an LED TV with an array of backlights. I will say that if you do a lot of FPS gaming the Samsung is probably the better choice; Samsung LED TVs have been best-in-class for gamers for a number of years. LG has made strides with a big firmware update for my 2016 TV and I'm sure the 2018 models have even more improvements, but it definitely isn't as good as an experience as on a Samsung LED TV.
Both are good choices, but the fact that the Q9FN doesn't support Dolby Vision would be a huge deal-breaker for me at that price point. The HDR format wars are just heating up, but the Dolby name has a whole lot of weight behind it and is being wholeheartedly embraced by studios, Netflix, etc. and I can't fathom spending $2700 for a TV that doesn't have this feature.
QLED is old tech. OLED panels are far superior in contrast, color rang , energy consumption , and much more. LED (including QLED) is the past. OLED (organic LEDs are the future , there is no backlight and each individual pixel can be controled and illuminated or shut off. Rather than say a back light controlling quadrants of pixels like in QLED.
It is the future, but right now is almost a 1000 dollar price premium on a tv. I don't think it's the future until you start seeing 50+in oled displays hit the under-1000-dollar price point. I think we still have another 3 or 4 years before they become mainstream, so it's not exactly a terrible time to buy a mid or mid-low priced QLED and wait for mainstream OLED displays.
Not to throw shade but this is a very general statement. What I mean by that is if you wait 3-7 years for OLED's or QLED's to be come mainstream and fully replace LED's that are on the market today and they are similar in price to what the LED's are today why do you think that would be? It would be because something better than OLED's or QLED's exist that has driven the price down on them and now that new technology is now the new premium standard.
My point is you can make your statement at any given time about any newer premium technology and it would always be true, and you would always be waiting for the prices to come down on premium tech but then hold out again as the latest and greatest tech seems so much better.
As far as pricing is concerned Massdrop is selling the LG 55" B7A OLED for $1299.99 which is an amazing deal and not that much more expensive than middle to high end LED models from Samsung or LG. https://www.massdrop.com/buy/lg-55-b7-oled-4k-hdr-smart-tv
I'll help get this started as I'm interested in some more of the technical aspects. At the dumb consumer level I've heard the main difference is QLED looks better in a bright room while OLED will look better in a dark environment when comparing the two. I can only assume there is a lot more to it than that ;)