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Haurock
75
Jun 22, 2017
The crazy pricing is why I still use a logitech G710+ I got for 70 bucks. 200 without switches or keycaps is insane.
Alex00322
789
Jun 22, 2017
HaurockYou also use a plastic keyboard with sub par keycaps, a non standard bottom row, so replacement keycaps are near impossible. You can't begin to compare this to a high quality custom build.
Haurock
75
Jun 22, 2017
Alex00322First, it's not a build, it's a kit. You have to build it yourself. But ok, let's compare: Input Clubs Whitefox (169 on kickstarter for a full set, 159 for a kit), or K type (200 on Massdrop) are both high quality custom boards with good keycaps. There are a lot of other good boards that cost similar or less then them that show up both here on massdrop and elsewhere. To get everything you need to actually build this keyboard you are looking at about $375 with tax, plus a few hours labor to actually build it. So, this is around double the cost of very good custom keyboards, and over 5 times the cost of my cheap 'plastic board', which has lasted me for ever 2 years with no fading on the keycaps or any major issue at all. I'm sure it's great quality, but it would have to be really special to be worth that kind of price hike.
skullY
330
Clueboard
Jun 22, 2017
HaurockWhat the Whitefox doesn't have is a Superplate. It also has exposed screws. The whitefox is a great board, don't get me wrong, but it's much different from the Clueboard in some important ways.
Take a look at the lines of the Clueboard. The way the two halves come together at an angle, not a straight line. No fewer than half a dozen different bits are used when machine these cases, plus at least 4 position changes. Each position change requires them to unclamp the board, move it around, reclamp it, and reindex the tool. This is a labor intensive and error-prone process.
The whitefox, on the other hand, uses a simpler to manufacture design that has fewer machining steps. This allows them to produce a case that costs less, but it also forces them into a particular aesthetic. Their aesthetic is fine, but it's not for everyone. The Clueboard brings a different aesthetic to the mix, but one that is more expensive to produce. At the end of the day you can't go wrong picking either one.
Alex00322
789
Jun 22, 2017
skullYThe Superplate really is amazing. There is absolutely zero flex while typing. Something you will get with most aluminum and acrylic plates.
hiramhibbard
28
Jun 22, 2017
skullYwhat the heck is a superplate
skullY
330
Clueboard
Jun 22, 2017
hiramhibbardIt is both the plate and the top half of the case machined out of a single piece of aluminum. The tall sides provide strength and rigidity. As if that wasn't enough we have reinforcing ridges on the bottom side to prevent flex. Check it out here:
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hiramhibbard
28
Jun 22, 2017
skullYVery interesting, thanks for the response :)
Serubin
44
Jun 23, 2017
HaurockIf you are concerned about the manual labor of building it yourself then it's not the keyboard for you. Half the fun of the hobby is putting it all together and customizing it yourself.
Haurock
75
Jun 23, 2017
SerubinThat's not what I'm saying. Putting together a keyboard is fun, sure, but that still is labor the manufacturer doesn't have to do. I'm not saying that it's not a good product, It just seems extremely expensive for what you get to me. It also doesn't stand out visually like the stuff from Datamancer to the point that there are really no other products like it, so to me, it is competing against products like those from Input Club, Code, etc. It's like paying Aston Martin prices for a car that has the build quality of an Aston Martin, but looks like a BMW.
Alex00322
789
Jun 23, 2017
HaurockIt's okay to not understand things.
Haurock
75
Jun 23, 2017
Alex00322It's also ok to disagree, but you (yes, specifically you) should try to do so without coming off as condescending.
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