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keyboard_arrow_downKG-Jag
13
Mar 3, 2020
A $29 stylus/$50 cartridge in a $349 TT system doesn't seem like much of buy to me (and I have had TT'S since the 60's).
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Nah, he's totally killing it. But he already has some tenitus and can't really tell I'm sure. Plus, for him it's just the joy of listening to his favorite records that hes had around since he was growing up. Frankly, he probably gets more enjoyment out of listening than just about anyone i know (self included) even though he doesn't care at all about "quality" how a lot of people here do. Different strokes for different folks.
poteetb1
155
Audio-Technica
Mar 9, 2020
Just as a point of clarification, the AT-VM95E cartridge included with this table is also styli upgradeable to Eliptical nude, Micro Line and Shibata. AT-VM95E as a cartridge is a great starting point but, the upgradeability is part of the chemistry. I have an AT-LPW40WN, with the AT-VM95ML. I would be hard pressed to suggest a Debut Carbon over this combination.
stephencandy
19
Mar 3, 2020
Damn $350 is high when the original is for $200 on other websites. Are we going to see any reviews. My answer is NO for now.
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rhpot1991
228
Mar 3, 2020
Upgrade-ability is the one area that stands out for me. Turntables in this price range don't offer VTA, this does. I upgraded to a Shibata stylus for $179 and now it sounds better than my $600 Pro-ject with a $189 Ortofon Blue stylud upgrade.
Out of the box there might be better choices but that upgrade path is unbeatable.
T.Fernandez
801
Collabs
Mar 3, 2020
stephencandyIf you are referring to the price of the AT-LPW40WN the MSRP is $299.
phoenixsong
1055
Feb 7, 2020
I've got a Pro-ject debut carbon with ortofon 2m red- will this be an upgrade? If not, how can I make the most of what I have now? Still not fully satisfied with the sound from them :p
Fayne
2587
Feb 13, 2020
I'm currently a fan of acrylic, especially with a heavy weight/clamp. I initially got the combo (which I linked) because a number of the older special edition LP I own are warped (clear/tinted stuff from the 70s did not hold up). It helped flatten them out enough so that playback didn't have any noticeable warping noises. After using it with a bunch of good vinyl, I found it did help tighten the bass response a bit while bolstering the mids a smidge. Both of which didn't make too much of an overall impact for my setup because the gear I'm running is fairly warm and vibrant for mid-fi (Denon VL12 Prime turntable, Teac AX-501 and Nobsound 6P1 amps, Yaqin MS-23B Phono preamp, Yaqin CD3 line buffer, and Pioneer FS52 and BS22 speakers with SP-8 subwoofer), and were only easily noticed when using the monitor out with my HD6xx and T1.2 cans.
I did not (and still don't) like cloth mats. They have a bad habit of generating and holding static electricity. Plus they leave detritus on the bottom side of the LP. I did find that putting the cloth mat between the turntable platter and the acrylic mat helped isolate some of the vibrations generated by the floor-standing speakers and subwoofer, but that is more anecdotal than anything else.
Edit: Also, a handy benefit of the acrylic platter is being able to easily and accurately set the anti-skate controls on turntables that have 'em. Without risk of damaging the stylus or vinyl, even. Start the table without any vinyl, place the stylus about 1/4 the way to the edge of the acrylic, and adjust the anti-skate control until the tonearm doesn't move in either direction. Too much or too little will have the tonearm either heading towards the center or outside of the platter.
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JohnCarter17
3
Mar 5, 2020
phoenixsongYou might want to also consider a bronze upgrade. Blue you can swap to quickest, same cart as red. Bronze and Black come with a different cart.
Tsarge
3
Mar 19, 2021
I'd get it if it had bluetooth connectivity to speakers. I'm tired of buying cables. The included cables are like what, 10 inches?
silentbirdie
138
Apr 23, 2021
I don't find blutooth 5.0 to be a game changer I've tried it and only ldac is really good enough but is almost never used outside of sony gear.
RayF
22220
Apr 23, 2021
silentbirdie
The present is generally a poor indicator of the future.
Whether 5.0 or not, Bluetooth turntables are readily available today and will only improve in sound quality. Who they appeal to and why at this point is another story.
A the sub $500 level, people might not always as demanding as you may be.
I recently purchased a set of 5.0 speakers that also offer USB and optical connectivity—and I don’t hear any difference.
aves
Feb 5, 2020
Are there going to be multiple colors available? Wood, black, and white options would be awesome.
Evshrug
3780
Community
Feb 22, 2020
I agree the dark wood is handsome, I also liked the original walnut... a warm cherry would match my furniture and speakers (Polk Audio) and tastes best though. Thanks for dropping some comments!
karl1569
24
Feb 11, 2021
Locked
The fucking tone arm lever shocks me, even when its not plugged in. I'm fucking scared to even touch this piece of garbage now.
karl1569
24
Apr 4, 2021
ok bud, keep being sure of something you weren't present to witness. Your input is very meaningful.
poteetb1
155
Audio-Technica
Mar 9, 2020
There is an available headshell, the curve is due to the straight tonearm. In an s-shape configuration we do sell pre-mounted cartridges that screw righ on.
rhpot1991
228
Mar 9, 2020
poteetb1Yep, I'm aware. Just warning others before they purchase the wrong one. The curved one seems a lot less available overall.
Xnightcrawl
198
Mar 3, 2020
Wow. Price kinda steep since Fluance RT84 is currently on sale for 15% off.
wcg66
139
Keyboard Club Member
Mar 3, 2020
XnightcrawlEspecially since Fluance has free shipping in Canada (it's $47 for this table.) Shipping makes it a no-go outside the US in my opinion.
silentbirdie
138
Apr 13, 2024
There's literally only 4 styluses for the cartridge and the cartridge comes with the turntable what more info do they need? Are you new to turntables and think a stylus and cartridge are the same thing? 🤣🤣🤣
rapoon
43
Apr 13, 2024
silentbirdieUnfortunately, I'm not new to buying turntables, or upgrading the cartridge or stylus - it's been far too much money. Now for a history lesson, kid - MicroLine styli have existed for decades, and a cursory search - at least a dozen older ML styli would fit on this cart. That's right, older - the NOS market is enormous. You'd know that if you had a look at audiokarma, vinylengine, stevehoffman, and older A-T documentation (instead of drop and reddit). The point of my initial comment still stands - your response was worthless.
Btw, grats on your first 'bigboy' table!
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RVDIII
70
Mar 2, 2021
Wow! Could you return my Darkvoice for me!
After 32 days they told me to: Go pound sand buddy!!! Your sh*t out of luck! NO WARRANTY!!!
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silentbirdie
138
Mar 23, 2021
RVDIIIdarkvoice isn't made by drop and is a bit of a gamble because they have a high failure rate
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