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HoffmanMyster
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Community
May 17, 2022
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Hi everyone,  An email was sent out just now alerting all participants that this run was canceled due to insufficient orders and an inability to meet MOQ. Payment for all orders has been refunded to the original payment method; in addition, we have issued a $20 credit to each participant as a thank you for your support, to be used on a future order.  We will be revisiting this set with Matt3o to incorporate many of the improvements that were requested earlier, and work to deliver a set that satisfies everyone who is interested in the design. Keep an eye out for a potential relaunch in the near future.  If anyone has any questions about this, please feel free to comment here. If you have a support issue related to your order, please reach out to our Community Support team at drop.com/support.  Thanks, Hoffman Edit to add clarity around the timing of this announcement: First and foremost, the run and kits available were not generated and presented in the best way (lack of brown mods mentioned here by a variety of users, among other issues). Because of these shortfalls, orders for this buy were well below MOQ. At this point, there were two options - either cancel the buy outright, or work to make it happen despite the low orders and increased complexity of production. We chose option 2, for better or worse. After trying for some time, it became apparent that canceling the buy and going back to the drawing board is ultimately the correct decision. This set is worth doing right and putting additional work into it to make it the best it can be will make you all happy and result in a better product. I think it's clear that the communication on this was lacking, and you all have been blind-sided now by this news. Please know that we hear you and are learning from the experience. If this happens again in the future, we will do a better job to communicate what is happening behind the scenes and keep you up to date on overall progress.
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micho
17
May 17, 2022
HoffmanMysterA blessing in disguise hopefully. I hope this means brown modifiers with the revised design.
MonsterDDY
41
May 17, 2022
HoffmanMysterWith a potential relaunch with the brown mods people want, is there a chance of a novelties kit that include original size/position for C64 keys, so it can be used on a mechboard 64? Or is the scope of that way too limited? I know a lot of people in the C64 community are looking for new keycaps that fit their new old hardware.
michoThat is the plan right now, yes. The timing and unfortunate announcement aside, I hope that everyone will be more happy with the set that ultimately ends up happening.
MonsterDDYI was not aware of the Mechboard 64 project until now - wow! Very impressive. I make no promises, but I will pass this along in hopes that full compatibility can be included. Do you happen to have a link to more info or a forum where you all congregate?
Sorigami
11
May 17, 2022
HoffmanMysterThank you for the transparency. I can't speak on behalf of others, but many of us have been patient and waiting for a proper Retro Petscii run with everything you mentioned regarding the kits and correct mods. To a lot of us, it will be a dream come true. What you described makes sense to me and with a little more patience, something will come to light for all of us to enjoy. Please keep the community updated and as you said, communicate everything. I'm looking forward to the revised design and wants/needs that I'm hopeful, will surface and make everyone involved here a winner.
nightdriver
190
May 17, 2022
HoffmanMysteris there any chance of a commodore logo key for the new version?
A community member
May 17, 2022
nightdriverProbably depends on the cost for the trademark. The rights to the Commodore name and logo have changed hands many times in the past decade, and I recall the current owner considers it very valuable and is actively trying to use it to brand new products of their own.
MonsterDDY
41
May 17, 2022
nightdriverThis would be amazing, but the logo is owned by someone else. Combined with that and having to make new molds, it's probably the reason the A in the novelties was chosen as a compromise.
MonsterDDY
41
May 17, 2022
HoffmanMysterThere is a discord: https://discordservers.com/server/510064367979462663 I'm sure there are many other places we assemble, like Reddit, etc. The Mechboard 64 project (https://www.breadbox64.com/blog/diy-mechboard64/) is just a keyboard, people tend to use MX converters with the original keycaps, since keycaps is basically the only component you can't get new to build a fresh C64. All the other hardware is available new (if you count FPGA and replacement ICs) in some form. As a result there is a lack of keycaps out there. Unfortunately it would probably require some new molds to make compatible caps, which I assume is a much bigger and more expensive project.
Tierney
5
May 18, 2022
HoffmanMysterDamn. A couple years until anything actually reaches us then. Since it is going back to the drawing board--and hopefully that genuinely happens--can y'all also fix the upside-down PETSCII symbols on the front of the M key? I suppose at least the artisan that I bought to complement this kit still looks nice with my current Carbon set.
phinix
315
May 18, 2022
HoffmanMysterThank you for this - that is very smart move, good decision, guys. I ordered it cause didn't want to miss Petscii set and it was now cancelled, but I'm happy that you guys going to revise it and release again. I would be fantastic if we had: ** Commodore logo cap ** brown mods ** PBT (but I guess this isn't possible?) Thank you for a refund extra - I will use it to buy MT3 9009 PBT now :)
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Gaburir
1
May 29, 2022
HoffmanMysterDo we get a notice when it will be available to buy if we clicked on the request button?
Darkstar1977
7
Sep 23, 2023
HoffmanMysterOver a year later, and I'm assuming this is dead now?
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