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Ralphiepop
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Dec 31, 2019
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Am I the only one that's skeptical to see prices like this? If something is Originally valued at $1900, but can be sold even in bulk at $300, then surely it's true quality is a good deal less then that. It just always strikes me as dishonest and sketchy. Tell me I'm wrong? I know that's the whole purpose of this site, to get discounts, but the point stands.
Dec 31, 2019
OldFinn
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Dec 31, 2019
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Makes it seem cheap doing the Invicta MSRP and selling for way less. Who would ever buy it for MSRP? Should post real pricing. I’m sure it’s a deal, but ain’t no $1900 watch.
Dec 31, 2019
wichtom
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Dec 31, 2019
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that watch is priced 600 euro on ebay..or 650 dollar
Dec 31, 2019
RayF
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Dec 31, 2019
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What it should really make people think about is the amount of crazy-stupid profit associated with ALL the expensive shit marketed and sold today--be it a $30,000 watch or $2,000 watch. Same goes for everything else in the world of Luxury/High-End merchandise: clothing, accessories, booze, cars, you name it--the higher the price, the bigger the profits. The real shame of course is that people (occasionally myself included) are so drawn to it all. That, and of course the few people who actually coughed up $2,000 for these hundred-dollar watches ;- )
Dec 31, 2019
ED61
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Dec 31, 2019
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It’s not just you at least with higher end watches like omega you can get full set 5 year manufacture warranty for 35% off retail that reflects the mark up on high end brands but is steel Rolex worth double retail considering the at least 30% mark up to begin with how great can the quality be when most decent watches will last forever especially in a rotation bottom line for me anyway this hobby aint cheap but in this case here you’ll get a pretty good watch at a pretty good price
Dec 31, 2019
RayF
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Dec 31, 2019
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Taste and price aside, you have to look pretty hard to find a truly terrible watch these days—whereas truly ugly and truly over-priced are far more common ;- )
Dec 31, 2019
ED61
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Dec 31, 2019
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As always well said
Dec 31, 2019
Watchyoutalkingabout
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Dec 31, 2019
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The MSRP isn’t actually for you - it’s for the dealer, who is actually the customer of the manufacturer. Sounds weird, right? It’s not just the watch industry, the automotive industry works similarly. Using broad strokes here (and ignoring direct to consumer sales), Seiko or BMW isn’t trying to sell YOU one watch, there trying to sell a few thousand watches each to a few hundred dealers. So Seiko/Rolex/Omega/Ford produces the product at a cost of say $2500. They sell the product to the dealer at 5k while also telling the dealer that the price they should sell for is 10k. Is the manufacturer trying to pull the wool over your eyes? No, they’re trying to do that to the dealer. The dealer is the one trying to fool you with a discount. Hope that makes sense.
Dec 31, 2019
RayF
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Jan 1, 2020
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Oh, sure, I get it now...
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Jan 1, 2020
ZiggyStar
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Jan 1, 2020
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That is why I have zero qualms about buying from grey markets.
Jan 1, 2020
sparis145149
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Jan 2, 2020
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Watch pricing is a game. Think of all the small manufacturers, like Stowa and Archimede, who make beautifully finished, three-hand, ETA 2824 watches for $600 to $1000 retail. And they have to buy the movements from ETA. Now think of, for instance, Longines. Part of the Swatch group that includes ETA, they make three-hand, 2824 watches and ask $2500 for them, while Hamilton, also part of the Swatch Group, sells three-hand 2824 watches, not technically different from Longines for $500 to $1000. Yes, the Longines are often prettier and a little better finished, maybe, but at $50 an hour, that's 40 hours of labor spent in polishing and so forth between $500 and $2500. Remember that the movement and the materials are the same. I'm just not believing that Longines spends 40 hours doing anything to every single watch they make. The retail prices are made up out of thin air. "But the designs!" you say. Sure. Pay a designer $10,000. Divide that by 2000 watches. 5 bucks a watch. If it's 10,000 watches, that's a dollar each. Thin air.
Jan 2, 2020
RayF
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I concur!
Jan 2, 2020
sparis145149
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Jan 2, 2020
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Say you pay the designer $20,000. Say you only make 500 watches. The design cost 40 bucks per watch. Double that so the manufacturer gets his ROI on the design: $80 per watch. Double that again so the wholesaler profits on the design: $160 per watch. Double it one more time so the retailer gets his ROI on the watch: $320 per watch. Add that to the $800 or so the Hamilton gets for its not-so-well-designed watches: $1,120. (But Hamilton makes a lot more than 500.) Still a long way to go to $2500.
Jan 2, 2020
RayF
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And a long way further still to get it from me ;- )
Jan 2, 2020
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