It's a good switch on its own, but don't expect a LOT of tactility or anything. The spring is also a little weird for me, almost like it's too long and feels like it's about to bind up as you approach the bottom of the travel. Apparently this is to encourage people to not bottom out the switch, which isn't really for me. So I don't know how long I'd want to use them stock. Stock Zealios might be the better choice IMO. I got these for Holy Pandas and I really like them over stock trues. I did a blind test with a bunch of different options and I found I prefer the halo switch with the panda spring and housing, wich I think is actually the "traditional" holy panda.