After a few months trading back and forth between these and the HD6XX, I really think most people will be much happier with these. I do most of my listening to my ripped ALAC collection and/or Tidal on my iPhone through the lightning adapter. The Hd6XX are fine with this, but definitely don’t shine like they do when plugged into my desktop computer or receiver, whereas the HD58X sound pretty much the same (great) no matter what you plug them into. If you had to have just one and will do any listening through a portable source, go for these.
As for actual performance, they sound like a slightly more energetic set of Sennheiser open-back headphones. Bass guitars come to life on these, and there is enough sparkle on the high end to satisfy most folks. A really great set of headphones at any price.
This is a tough review to write. I know these are not 5 star headphones but every time I change it to 4 I feel like I am selling them short. I have plenty of headphones that are technically better in every single way but found myself having to listen to music I normally wouldn't in order to appreciate what they had to offer. The problem I always had was the music I like is normally poorly recorded and those headphones would just suck the fun out of most of my favorite albums. This includes the 600's and 6xx's.
I'm not sure what I expected when I bought these. I've been daydreaming about the 660s and seen another 150ohm Sennheiser with the 6xx series looks for $150 and figured why not. Massdrop shipped them quick and they got here in no time despite the normally slow fedex/usps thing. I have a regular new headphone ritual where I open up foobar and play Reasonable Doubt. Normally I skip through that album in a couple minutes because those other headphones makes the poor quality samples and overall poor recording quality unbearable to listen to. I usually have to use my jbl s700's or ATH-WS1100's for old school hip hop.
This is where this review may get a little weird so I apologize in advance. Now I have these on and hit play. Can't Knock the Hustle starts playing and the heart beat starts. At the 30 second mark it dawns on me I am sitting here with my eyes closed remembering when I first bought the cassette back in the day not really even listening. Then the 42sec mark hits and sitting in a room alone I actually say ooh. I sat there with my feet up and eyes closed and listened to the entire album. Not once did I have the flaws of the album forced on me or even thought to look for them. The entire time I was having memories of the first time I listened to the album and enjoyed it just as much as I did then.
I know all that probably sounded weird but what I'm about to say may sound even more weird. All of my so called "audiophile" grade headphones always gave me the impression they were tuned by someone a generation older to fit the music they enjoyed when they were younger. These are the first quality pair of headphones that feel like they are tuned by someone from my generation. A lot of audiophile headphones don't seem to like hip hop or at least late 80's early 90's hip hop but these do. Everything just sounds pleasurable. My collection of music is just not hip hop and I normally have to switch headphones depending on what I want to listen to but I haven't felt the need with these.
The only real shortcomings I think these headphones have is the soundstage and separation. I'm strictly speaking stock in this review because those can be improved. I find the soundstage to be very close to the 600's and separation of instruments to be a bit less or softer than both the 600's and the 6xx's. I would definitely like more soundstage stock but I think the way these do separation is part of why they work so well with all music and are so pleasurable. If your playlist goes from wu tang to rage to Biggie to Nirvana to Dessa to Wayne to you get the point these are for you. I have seen some comments of owners saying they had some graininess with theirs but I have no sign of that with mine. I did have that with those ATH-WS1100's but it went away after a week of use so hopefully those who have/had that issue with these will have the luck I had with those.
That is a definitive yes. I think the only place that the beats can beat the sennheiser hd58x to is who is going to be quicker in going inside the trash can and I believe that beats will win that round hands down, no competition xD. But on a serious note, there is no way any beats model could surpass the sound quality that this can produce
That is a definitive yes. I think the only place that the beats can beat the sennheiser hd58x to is who is going to be quicker in going inside the trash can and I believe that beats will win that round hands down, no competition xD. But on a serious note, there is no way any beats model could surpass the sound quality that this can produce
Such a potential can of worms here...
I think it comes down to 2 things:
The subjective/personal experience of which sounds better (and there are hundreds of opinions out there about which one sounds better and/or how they are different). Even if 2 people agree on how they differ in sound, they might disagree on which they prefer.
The objective difference, of which there is really only one that matters- impedance. You have to use an amp with the 6XX @ 300 ohms. You can get away without one on the 150 ohm 58X (but I don't recommend it). Otherwise, I don't find any spec or build differences that really matter (at least for me).
If you're on the move, with your phone, and don't want to slip a portable headphone amp in the chain, the 58X would be the better choice.
Personally, I use my 6XX with an amp, primarily for gaming and listening to music that is on my pc. My 58X is plugged into a keyboard, without an amp. They both sound and feel fantastic. Choosing between them, for me, is fairly impossible. I love them both, I would be fine with just one or the other. And, at the end of the day, I don't think anyone could make a wrong choice by buying either one or both. The only bad decision would be not to buy one at all.
NarqI agree. Although I use the 6XX for gaming just because I like the more tamed treble. As a classical musician, the 6XX sounds more critical while the 58X more ‘fun’. I’m happy I own both!
OakParkMusicGuyI would certainly do it your way, however I'm plugging in directly to my keyboard's headphone out, so I like the lower power requirements of the 58x.
rckidytNo doubt, they'll run without the horsepower, but some of us are more sensitive to the distortion, which is especially obvious in the types of sounds a full range synthesizer generates. Headphones need a lot of juice to reproduce the crazy sub-lows that synths fart out. To my ears, the 58x just seems more willing to play along, without help.
OakParkMusicGuyIf the 6XX has a more tamed treble wouldn't that make the 58X the more "critical" one? I understand the 6XX is described as more neutral, so does that mean the treble on the 58X is exaggerated or unnaturally boosted?
Curious 🤔...
eddiezrI don't think so. To my ears the the 58X has a slight U-shaped eq voicing so the bass and treble are more prominent. In comparison the 6XX has more mids with its flatter voicing. When I listen to classical music with the 6XX I can hear much more subtle details in the strings. But I think this can come at the cost of being a bit fatiguing to the ear when listening for long periods of time. A lot of details in music are in the mid range.
OakParkMusicGuyAh, I think I understand. It isn't the high end on the 6XX that's potentially more fatiguing, it's the more forward midrange. You gain clarity and detail in the mids but the "price" is extended use ear fatigue.
I do appreciate midrange detail because that's the range where most musical information exists, but I do tend to eq with a slight "u" shape, so it's a bit of a contradiction, aye? 🤔
Hmm, interesting dilemma...
OakParkMusicGuyI mostly listen to rock of all types and eras, with acoustic styles such as singer/songwriter, folk and blues my favorite, but also most jazz up to 70s Coltrane and Davis with a little more contemporary stuff here and there; Metheny, Corea, Zorn...
I do not listen to much classical on headphones, because I prefer that genre on my large speaker system. I need the visceral energy when Tchaikovsky's timpani are slamming--or those howitzer canons!--or the airy 3D space around Diana Damrau's supernatural Queen of the Night.
I listen to a lot of "ethnic" music: African, Pakistani, Brazilian, Flamenco, etc. where vocals are crucial.
I realize your question was rhetorical, but I never turn down an opportunuty to recite my musical idiosyncrasies. Thanks for asking! 😁👍
I own the 58X! Love them, but was considering the 6XX to check out their fanatical reputation. I auditioned the HD700 and HD800 in a shop and found the 700 to be not significantly better than the 58X in terms of dynamics or overall experience although detail and clarity were noticeably improved, while the 800 was too clinical, cold and unforgiving for my taste. The Focal Clear are sensational! And $1,400!! 😱 They're like Sennheiser's ideal sound fully realized with added stage and presence. So that makes me curious about the Drop Alex which is $500 less than the Clear and reputed to be very similar. Too many options 🤪...
eddiezrYou name-dropped some seriously good artists! Music that's so good, even bad headphones can't hurt it. It reminds me... technology will never matter when it comes to great music.
nevets2396Drop has made some big changes, and not necessarily for the better, in my humble opinion, so... I haven't been visiting the site nearly as often as I once did. Sorry for the delay. I'm sure there are audiophiles here that have better informed opinions. I use the JDS Labs' Element II. It's a combined DAC/Amp that is well-built, simple to use and setup, and sounds fantastic. I've used it for years and it's still delivering the goods. That's all I can recommend. I haven't used anything else. Hopefully, others can give you better advice.
NarqIs there any sound difference besides volume potential when using the 58X with or without an amp? I’ve had the 58X for years now and have never tried using an amp with them, I just plug them into the front audio port of my PC case and I can get them plenty loud using the RealTek Control Panel in my OS.
i have considered ordering the nicer $60 ear pads because the stock ones are too hot and uncomfortable for me, and have also thought about buying an Amp to plug the 58X into just to see if there’s a sound difference at all (or if it’s all just volume potential).
if you can actually hear more with an amp i am curious
Hopefully this doesn't sound too snobby, because I own both cans and think they're both great.
They're $50 cheaper than the HD6XX. If that $50 is a deal-breaker, chances are the rest of your gear would jive with the HD58X just as well as the HD6XX, if not better.
If you're new to the hobby and are deciding between the two, I actually think the HD58X is the better recommendation - a little easier to drive, better in the bass, with a treble signature that's hard to complain about. If you're deciding what headphone would get the most out of the NOS tubes you got for your OTL amp, the HD6XX will get the most out of it.
I can see the HD6XX underwhelming someone new to the hobby compared to the HD58X. I can also see hobby veterans preferring to HD6XX to the HD58X.
To my ears, the 58X has deeper sub-bass, fuller midrange and a sharper top-end while the 6XX has more mid-bass and smoother top-end making for a sound that is often described as plush. I greatly prefer the HD58X.
Definitely get the 6XX. I’m have both of them. And my Beyerdynamics and my AKGs. Although my AKG 7XX are my least favorite. Anyways - Tchaikovsky through the 6XX is sublime! The pizzicato movement you can hear their fingers touch the string. I’m a classical musician and classical through the 6XX is awesome.
And I think folk / acoustic is a great pair as well. I also really like Nine Inch Nails in the 6XX as his layers are very distinct and the 6XX let’s them come right through.
With all that said. I like rock and pop and such better with 58X. I also like switching up my headphones - minimizes fatigue and keeps my ears sharp for listening for the differences.
I agree with what people say about the voicings. As far as difficulty driving I’d like to add that the 6XX aren’t that bad and that my AKG 7XX seem more power hungry than either the 58X or the 6XX.
Volume wise with device only
You mileage may vary
I took a chance to test same music on YouTube (night piano music) with HD58X (modified with back foam removed), HD600, and HD650 (massdrop version is 6xx)
Volume is mostly the same between 58X and 650 while 600 is simply barely satisfied without external adapter.
If you got satisfied volume with 58x, you'll be likely to get similar volume with 6xx due to sensitivity is pretty close.
Impedance is not really relevant with smartphone due to OTL/OCL circuitry
Device tested
Motorola G Power 2023 (headphones jack only)
Motorola G Stylus 5G 2023 (headphones jack and USB-C DAC)
The main differences are price and sound stage, the hd58x are better for gaming imo and are much cheaper but if you are looking for a very neutral sounding headphone and are willing to spend more then get the 6xx.