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woptucci
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Nov 5, 2019
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I have owned 2 QSP knives, 1 I was ambivalent about and the other the QSP Pelican in what they call flax I liked very much until the lock failed a few minutes after I unboxed it and I failed to notice how early the lock up was (10%) and it nicked me, I then opened the second knife to find the same early lock up so I returned them both. If someone can tell me the benefit of an early lock up I am all ears. Isn't the reason we use frame and liner lock for safety reasons? I talked with someone more familiar with this up and coming brand and he mentioned this was an ongoing problem with their knives, OK so fix the problem and I will gladly buy this knife. From what I can tell in the one photo it looks to be another early lock up bound to fail...
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Nov 5, 2019
storrycity
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Nov 5, 2019
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So early lockup is neither good or bad. Too early can be bad, like what happened to you, but the idea of something like 20-30% lock up would ‘prolong’ the time the knife can be used by slowly wearing on the lock face as it’s used.
Nov 5, 2019
woptucci
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Nov 5, 2019
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I can't say I have ever worn out the lock face even as a OCD type that uses them for there fidget factor. Give me 30% all day long and it seems there would be a greater chance for wear with the lock sitting way out on the edge as in a early lock up situation. Just saying with no factual experience to say otherwise.
Nov 5, 2019
storrycity
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I fidget with my knives all the time too. I find the whole ‘prolong’ the life of the knife thing to have no real evidence either because wearing down a lock to such an extent that it develops blade play would take a massive amount of time.
Nov 5, 2019
Kavik
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Nov 5, 2019
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I would take an early lockup over a late lockup any day. Early lockup you can fix with 30 seconds and a file. Late lockup...there's no fix for that
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Nov 5, 2019
reswright
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Nov 5, 2019
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for you, or me, or someone who knows that they know how to do that, sure. I find it's something I can fix myself fairly easily, and as I have explored Chinese budget knife brands I have got a lot of experience in, filing down lockbars for a cleaner lockup. Others can probably say the same. So it's fixable, but to me, that's something that makes it hard for me to suggest the brand to a casual user. Especially for a buck under a benjamin -- for $100 that shouldn't really be an issue. Lockup is just something that Chinese knife makers are a little behind on mastering, because knives sold domestically in China don't have locks. They're building their competency in frame and liner locks, etc by selling to the West. So I've seen them coming along for a while. The thing is, I'm already kinda sitting here bored, going 'I have a bajillion knives with liner and frame locks already'. Frankly I think more of them should leave frame and liner locks behind and start turning out more knives with plunge and barrel locks -- like Ganzo with the good old axis lock. And it's not just Ganzo doing those. If Tonife can do a kickass axis lock, if I can buy a SRM Land with an awesome axis lock, if even Y-Start nails the axis lock, then others can get it right. All three of those companies along with Ganzo have released EXCELLENT axis lock knives under $30, so it's not an issue of price. Same with button locks -- if Tangram can do a fully functional button plunge lock under $40, lots of others can do it. I wanna see Real Steel, Reate, Rike, WE Knife, Bestech, Kizer, TwoSun, I wanna see all these companies start offering button and axis locks.
Nov 5, 2019
Kavik
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Agreed, it's certainly not something everyone wants to fix for themselves (and at $100 certainly shouldn't have to, you're right) Just saying some would consider it a non-issue and not worth the hassle of a return on the cheaper models I've gotten pretty bored of this hobby lately as well... You make lots of good points about better lock options....but lately I find myself drawn on a different direction when I do go browsing knives online. I want to pick up a couple nicer friction folders, with the extended tangs to secure the blade in your grip That and small, unique fixed blades are what catch my eye lately
Nov 5, 2019
DukeJockey
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Nov 5, 2019
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You can fix late lockup if you’re brave and have a flat punch, hammer, and “anvil” to pound on (a bench vise will do). https://youtu.be/lQ_alRnX324 I’ve done this successfully to a Fallkniven PXL, but the liner was a whole lot harder than the one in the video. It was time consuming, with many assemble-check-disassemble-bash iterations, but the results were worth it. There are other videos that do the peening in the center of the lock tab, but this has the side effect of also moving the detent ball (bad!). So you then have to fix the fix.
Nov 5, 2019
reswright
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That still manages to miss me -- the friction folder/slipjoint/non-locking knives. I don't disdain them, and I think I get why people use them -- nostalgia, simplicity, a lower probability that some jumped up cop will try and bust you, even novelty for the ones that didn't grow up with slipjoints - but I just don't find myself all that interested in buying them. Too many other things I like more. I like some. I kinda find Svord interesting, and I think about picking up a Spyderco Parata. I picked up a few slipjoints and detent locks, and I do like the latter a fair bit -- in fact, the one knife I've actually pocketed in the last few months that doesn't have a full lock on it was a SRM detent lock. I appreciate the craftsmanship of a properly made knife whether or not it's got a lock. But I tend to only want to pocket and use knives with locks. The small fixed blade? Still all the way about those. They're useful as the day is long. People, especially the ones who see knives primarily as a self defense thing, sometimes talk smack on smaller blades... but I think they're usually compensating, and if they saw the right person coming at them with a 1 inch knife in their hand, they would still be turning and running like hell, with their sphincter going like a rabbit's nose the whole way home.
Nov 5, 2019
Kavik
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That's an interesting thing to bring up, I rarely think about stretching metal Yeah, it sounds like a hassle, but a good trick to keep in mind if ever needed 👍
Nov 5, 2019
Kavik
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Lol "with their sphincter going like a rabbit's nose the whole way home" Best line I've seen around here in a long time 😂🤣🤣
Nov 5, 2019
reswright
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This is good stuff :)
Nov 5, 2019
reswright
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Wish I could claim it as my own invention but Brian Johnson of AC/DC dropped that one on an episode of Top Gear and I've kept it in my hip pocket ever since. :)
Nov 5, 2019
Kavik
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Lol nice I'll be looking up the knives you mentioned later (just got out of a meeting and I'm my way out the door), but I remember Tops had a friction folder i was looking at, can't remember if it was ever on here or not
Nov 5, 2019
reswright
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Oh, I know just which one you had your eye on, too. (Well, there's only one friction folder TOPS has out, so guessing which is not all that much of a sherlock. But given what you've posted here so far about razors and razor-like knives, it is plain that you would be interested in the Tac-Raze even if it had some kinda scorpion lock.) https://www.topsknives.com/tac-raze Figure I'll eventually pick one of these up. I don't think I'll be picking up the TwoSun razor comb tho, if you've seen that. The combination comb/straight razor just kinda seems like a hard no to me in that configuration for anyone. I like Van Gogh as much as anyone but there's limits to how far a man should emulate an artist.
Nov 5, 2019
Kavik
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Nov 6, 2019
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🤣 I hadn't seen that TwoSun yet. Wish I was still active in the shaving forums, that would get some good laughs I have a love hate relationship with razor shaped knives, since getting into using actual straight razors, but I do like the tac-raze. Obvious influence in the design, without looking like it's trying to fool anyone into thinking it's an actual razor. Ugh, i need to find some time for razor honing soon. This just reminded me lol
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Nov 6, 2019
reswright
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I like how they just flat out say not to try shaving with it.
Nov 6, 2019
reswright
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as far as the TwoSun:
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yeah. I mean, I love TwoSun but the person who designed this just wants to watch the world burn. It's Night Morning Design work, which as of late is quite good - but this thing just looks like a trip to the ER waiting to happen. I'm sure it's possible to use this thing as a razor. It might even be possible to shave with it, though that's a bit of a smile. I'm much less sanguine that someone could use this thing as a comb without drawing blood inside of fifteen seconds, their own or indeed that of anyone standing particularly close by.
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Nov 6, 2019
Kavik
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Nov 6, 2019
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haha i didn't see the disclaimer on the site I pulled it up on Agreed, the handle doesn't look like it'd be a problem for shaving, but the blade is definitely a problem for combing lol I actually like the blade profile for a razor. Slight smile, proud toe...not recommended for beginners who value their earlobes, but fine for experienced users I find smiling razors a joy to use, just a pain in the ass to sharpen, I've never quite gotten the hang of it. It's the frowning ones you gotta watch out for 😫
Nov 6, 2019
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