Vargo Titanium BOT 700 Discussions | Drop

Jul 21, 2016

abelaThis is 7 grams lighter than the 1L one . . . . . . .

Neist

Jul 21, 2016

JoomyYup, and you can't use the cozy, if so compelled.
I'm up in the air. I can see its use, but I'm not sure that I wouldn't want the BOT. Not sure if I need the handles..

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abela

523

Jul 21, 2016

Joomy>>> Joomy: This is 7 grams lighter than the 1L one
When I posted my comment above, I had no idea of the weight or price.
With the drop now happening, we get the specs and price.
Looks like it has fallen into that price point that I was hoping it would not be. (sigh/bummer)
Seven grams lighter huh. So a quarter of an ounce. Suppose that does not help much in any argument for the BOT 700 over the Original BOT, in the grand scope of things, eh, especially for 99.9% of the hikers out there.
I have spent more to save less, but not by much.
Suppose then, it is going to come down to the 1.6 inches shorter, and having handles, as the big seller points.
Still going to get one... the idea of being able to (hopefully) replace two items currently in my pack with just one, is crucial to me these days, with pack volume being so very precious.
I don't know... what are your thoughts?

DannyMilks

4557

Jul 21, 2016

abelaThere is very little material that has been removed from the original BOT to make the BOT 700, and the weight loss has been partially offset by the addition of the handles. So you're right that the advantage, therefore, is not about weight but functionality - the more compact size and handles. @abela @Joomy

avidpsychlist

Jul 21, 2016

I would join in a heartbeat for the 1000, but 700mL isn't big enough to be too useful for me :(

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Jul 22, 2016

You always have great advice regarding outdoor equipment. I'm wondering what you suggest in the single person mug/pot category with strainer lid.

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Jul 22, 2016

DannyMilks @abela My thoughts are the same as yours. You'd be crazy to buy this in order to save weight, but maybe if you like the smaller size and handle it's worth it. That said I think the BOT works best with a cosy which doesn't play well with a handle anyway. What I am thinking of doing is making a two-part cosy, where the bottom comes off while cooking but the top stays on and functions as a handle/safe grip area. Question would be how to ensure the heat is kept away from it or maybe use a heat resistant material like carbon felt.

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Just_Some_Guy

Jul 22, 2016

M_at_oIt really depends on the type of cooking you do and how much volume you need. If you are just looking at boiling water, then my favorite right now is the Evernew Ti Pasta Pot. I like the 1l but it also comes in a 750 ml. If you are going to do real cooking, then anodized AL really works better. Think of AL as a pan like you would use in your house, and Ti as something to get you as close to being on the flame as possible (heat dissipation doesn't work real well with Ti.

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Jul 23, 2016

Just_Some_GuyMy understanding is that this isn't really true. If I remember right, the conclusion by BPL contributors has been that the Ti and Al on these pots is so thin, and the pots so small, that there isn't much difference in heat distribution between the two.

DannyMilks

4557

Jul 23, 2016

Joomy @Joomy - That's what I remember too, but I'm too lazy to go look for the link to share :)

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Jul 23, 2016

DannyMilksSamez. I think I remember Roger Caffin making the point a few times.

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Jul 23, 2016

Thank you, as always, for sharing your experiences with outdoor equipment. What is the cup with handles in the lower left of the photo?

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Jul 25, 2016

You have a serious titanium ware collection! What brand do you suggest for the single person mug/pot category with strainer lid?

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Stepbystep

549

Jul 25, 2016

JoomyIt really depends on the particular pot, the burner, and what you're doing. Theoretically ti doesn't conduct heat as well, but that's just looking at material properties, and the comparison assumes an aluminum pot with a thicker bottom (maybe sides, too), which they generally have in the products we use. Contents of the pot in use matter a lot, too. Obviously ti does just fine with boiling and the water itself retains a lot of heat...boil times of comparable pots are negligible really. Now if you change the equation to include cooking solid foods and/or trying to simmer with a low flame (especially with a small focused burner head), then it starts to show a little more difference. Early on, when most aluminum pots were quite a bit larger and thicker on both sides and bottom, the "new" ti pots, which haven't changed appreciably since introduction other than getting smaller, there was a bit more noticeable difference. And people were also shifting towards different simpler food prep, too.

Antibacterial

319

Jul 26, 2016

M_at_oYou could just use one of the cutting board strainer combos that come with the light my fire meal kits. They're pretty light. Kmart was also selling a quality clone of the whole set for 5$

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DannyMilks

4557

Aug 22, 2016

Did you go to Trail Days @raptelan? Did you stop and talk with Chad or Brian at the Vargo booth? I had dinner with those guys at Outdoor Retailer. Really wonderful people!

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