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Krustyboomer
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Nov 18, 2017
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Bobert
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Nov 19, 2017
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KrustyboomerJust stop it. Damascus is a term commonly used to describe pattern welded steel. There is absolutely no reason to type out such a long rant about a commonly used term.
Krustyboomer
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Nov 19, 2017
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BobertMaybe, but I'm an engineer, so I like it when terms are accurate and not marketing hype. Just my pet peeve. And I still find people swearing "modern" Damascus is actually true Damascus. I don't like ignorance and such things such as this propogate it.
Bobert
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Nov 19, 2017
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KrustyboomerFor their use of the word they mean actual pattern welded and not just a pattern printed on a blade. It’s not worth typing out a rant. As an IT professional I don’t feel the need to correct people all the time for using incorrect terminology, because they wouldn’t care.
cs85b03
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Nov 20, 2017
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KrustyboomerThere are still knives made by folding steel to form a damascus pattern. No knives are going to be "true damascus" if you are trying to be technical about it and the origin of the term/city. I still think steel folding is really cool, but I don't agree with those wannabees who laser etch knives to look like a damascus pattern.
Krustyboomer
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Nov 20, 2017
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BobertWhy perpetuate ignorance? I bet if an IT magazine bandied about incorrect terms you'd get peeved.
Plus my rant was at least educational. I can't force you to learn though.
Why are you ranting about my ranting?
Plus my rant was at least educational. I can't force you to learn though.
Why are you ranting about my ranting?
Fowler
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Jan 9, 2018
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KrustyboomerCarbides are part of "the steel itself." In ancient damascus, you had small levels of vanadium etc. to control grain growth, but the primary carbide is still just iron carbide aka cementite. Some of these ended up forming nanowires etc., but as far as I know it's very contested as to whether or not those structures are at all unique to damascus steel or other folded steels.
Krustyboomer
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Jan 9, 2018
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FowlerIt's the growth of EXCESS carbides of unique and large shapes that help define Damascus. The fact remains pattern welding IS NOT Damascus. Plain and simple. False advertising.
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Not to say Damascus strength is mythical anymore, many modern steels are stronger/better anyway.
True damascus was formed from a SINGLE billet and the patterns precipitated as hard carbide "lines" during working/heat treating. Some of the carbides were even true carbon nanotubes. That's how true damascus got its super hard edge. CARBIDES, not the steel itself.