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SRM Land 912 and Ruike P801-SF
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These two knives, between them, have probably occasioned more chatter than any 20 other Chinese knives I have seen. They are ostensibly made by different Chinese companies -- SanRenMu, 'Three Blade Tree' makes the Land series, and is a well known original equipment manufacturer (OEM) knife and minitool maker based in Yangjiang. Ruike is a division of Fenix, a company better known for its flashlights, and which is based in Shenzhen. The truth is, I and a lot of folks are pretty sure SRM makes them both. in the US we don’t usually ask direct competitors to make stuff for us to sell; the Chinese do. That’s just apparently another part of normal business in China.
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On paper these are similar knives, but only similar to a point. The Land's made of 12C27 Sandvik and the Ruike is made of 14C28N Sandvik. Everyone prefers new Sandvik but no one can tell them apart short of leaving them in water (the 14C28N Sandvik should resist corrosion a little better -- that's pretty much it). There are other differences - the Land weighs 15 grams more, it has a different grind, it has a lefty/cross draw friendly reversible clip, it has a blue metallic barrel spacer for lanyards instead of a blue metallic clip like the Ruike. And the Ruike has a flipper tab the Land lacks, and a bit of bend to it. That's pretty much the on paper difference. In in terms of build quality they’re both five star knives. And yet you probably can't find two five star Chinese knives that are regarded AS differently BY Westerners. This is mostly entirely due to one fact -- the Ruike doesn't resemble another knife, but the Land does -- in fact, it looks an awful lot like the large Chris Reeve Sebenza. Copying that is kind of like copying a Monet. People are bound to notice. It's not an actual clone or a counterfeit Sebenza - it has its own trademark, a different works, it is made of stainless and Sandvik instead of titanium and S35VN, it has caged bearings instead of the proprietary Chris Reeve washers and bushings and all that, - but the lines are so similar that they inspire many ardent American patriots to become quite angry and to say terrible things about the Land series of knives, and SRM, and Chinese knives in general. If you go look around this place you will see some of that vitriol at times. There are, of course, Westerners who see the knife differently -- i.e. as a kickass $20 copy of a 30+ year old design that CRK sells for around 500 bones a pop on average, and therefore not just a good thing, but something CRK might have had coming to them. There's some folks here who seem to see it that way. As you might be able to guess, I'm one, unabashedly -- but the other side have their own legitimate way of seeing it, and can share it in their own words if they like. Anyway, the Ruike has no such baggage. Ruike doesn't see the same antipathy online that some Westerners have for Chinese work. On the contrary, you see people singing the praises of the Ruike P801. I've seen more than one knife collector saying that they'd happily trade their entire collection for a Ruike P801 made out of titanium and M390. That's just completely different from how people view the Land. It's like Cain and Abel. Knowledge is power, I guess! Better yet, attitude is everything. Anyway here's the Ruike:
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And here's the Ruike broken down:
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Here's the Land:
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The Land broken down:
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Now we see how the Land is only 15g more in weight despite appearing to be much larger -- the stainless handles have milled pockets to save weight. How are they similar? Aside from looks? These blades are the same thickness, they spin on the exact same caged bearings with the exact same diameter. And the same cage diameter. They have the same ceramic detent ball, and the same frame lock bar. Same length and diameter of standoffs. The screws are interchangeable, all the hardware appears to be. The blue is the same anodized shade. One has the bearing pocket counterbored into the frame, the other into the blade: both pockets are otherwise identical. The writing on the blades even looks like the same work. Oh, and both knives, out of the factory, were lubricated with petrolatum. A fair bit of it! If you ask me, lubricating w/ Vaseline is kinda.... something.... but it WILL keep the water off the works, and there was absolutely nothing wrong with the flip on either knife out of the factory, so what do I know -- maybe weinerschlider is the way to roll these days and I just didn't get the memo. It didn't seem quite so to me, so I wiped them clean and then relubricated with some Blue (because I'm bougie like that). So, yeah, these are very similar knives to me, but they inspire vastly different attitudes in the West. If you ask me the Land's a bit better. Maybe it's just how it fits my hand, maybe it's that better weighting. The Ruike feels a little thin in my hand by comparison. And yet of the two I can only see Drop having a Ruike P801 special some day. I'd be gobsmacked to ever see them drop the Land, on account of how deep those aforementioned attitudes run.
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Jul 4, 2019
reswright
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reswright@Inconel the short answer is it is very good. for a longer answer this is probably the info you want to see :)
Nov 25, 2020
lnconel
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Nov 25, 2020
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reswrightWow, amazing review. Much appreciated!
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