bookworm13I have the Spyderco Sharpmaker. Works well, relatively intuitive and safe to use. Packs up neatly in a nice case that doubles as the base and sets the stones at the proper angle. My only criticism is that once you pack all the parts away, you'll need to be properly motivated to pull it out again, set it up, and use it--which is to say--if you're lazy, not as often as you should. Unfortunately it's not attractive enough to leave out on display (depending on your taste-level for "attractiveness"). Best spot might be assembled and resting on a handy shelf in your workshop, where it's easy to get to and hard to ignore.
RayFI totally understand what you're saying, but just want to point out it isn't because it's hard to set up, or takes a long time, don't want people getting that idea...it's just more of an out of sight out of mind kinda thing
I grab the ceramic rod hanging out in the open in my kitchen more often than the sharpmaker, just for that reason
Have you buy chance tried their diamond stones for higher grade steels?
I've heard a little talk about them, but they aren't cheap
RayFI got the Lansky MEdge because I'm a cheapass (as you well know). I also thought the 17, 20, 25 degree angles of the Lansky would be what I wanted, but now I wish I could choose the 15 degree angle of the Sharpmaker. Oh well, time to practice my freehand sharpening.
KavikNo, I haven't. Truthfully, I'm a lazy knife sharpener and that's why as easy as the Sharpmaker is to use, mine has pretty low miles on it. Also, I'm not much of a Steel guy--if I like a knife for it's appearance, I don't generally hold anything against it for what it has, or doesn't have going on inside. Maybe you saw my "Cheap Knives Need Love Too" post?
I certainly have a whack of 'em!
RayFI'll have to look for that post
I've got plenty of lower end steels that work great on the ceramics.
I've done s30/35 on them a couple times without too much fanfare, but I hear things about this steels needing diamond to cut the vanadium carbides and anything softer will leave them proud until you wear around them, then they'll fall out.... But, yeah, i dunno....i don't check my knives with microscopes lol
(razors get a loupe if they aren't feeling right, but that's about the extent of it)
KavikI'd be surprised if ceramic wasn't hard enough to handle s3x. Considering that the Japanese cooking knife fanatics sharpen their ultra hard Japanese knives on ceramic stones it should do the job - just takes more time than diamond. Spyderco likes to point out the ceramic stones used in their Sharpmaker are 9 on the Mohs scale.
bookworm13I don't have a perfect understanding of this, have only read bits in passing, and it's been a while...but I believe it didn't have anything to do with the hardness of the blade (as in those "ultra hard Japanese knives"), but to do with the hardness of just the actual bits of vanadium within it.
So not a question of how long it takes to sharpen, but of what the finish is like when you're done
I'll have to spend some time actually looking into it out of curiosity
Chick. Magnet.
Lol
Broke out the diamond plates tonight. One thing I don't like about the sharpmaker is it can easily round tips when you come off the rods... This one was very rounded after some use and a few lazy SM sharpenings
Whether the diamond works better for the s30vn or not, no denying it's the best way to deal with a straight edge and keep a nasty point!
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Freehand, just feeling for the angle.
Sorry for the slightly fuzzy cellphone pic.
And yes, the ricasso area has been screwed up since I got the knife. One of the days I'll get around to grinding in a little sharpening choil.
That stupid bit was both wider and lower than the edge since day one 🙄
KavikNice. I also have a Yojimbo 2 and have been debating on getting a sharp maker and Ken Onion sharp works belt. Would you say the sharp maker is very forgiving or difficult to use for 1st timers?
LaserGuidedSockJust to make sure we're on the same page...
This is the Spyderco Sharpmaker we were talking about
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Vs the Ken Onion Work Sharp
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The Sharpmaker has an easy learning curve, you just need to learn to keep the blade perpendicular to the table while moving between the left and right rod, and use the right pressure
The Work Sharp belt sander on the other hand, no, it's not at all forgiving if you screw up while using it. Depending on the belt, and the speed you're running it at, it can take off a lot of material pretty quickly.
If you go that route I'd suggest you go down to your local dollar store, flea market, or good will and pick up as many cheap knives as you can to practice on before considering putting a nice knife through it
LaserGuidedSockI also heard the Sharpmaster rounds the tip very easily, so probably not something you want to use with a Wharncliffe blade. But Wharcliffe blades are much easier than other blades to sharpen on a flat stone since you don't have to worry about a curve. You might want to check out the other Work Sharp system the WSGSS :
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00X9KU3GO
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You can lock in the pivot (so it stays flat) for a Wharncliffe and then unlock the pivot for curved blades.
Pete did a great review of the Sharpmaster and 4 other systems on youtube:
https://youtu.be/espj9njITkE
RayFAside from the weird bump near the recasso, it really is easier with the straight edge than keeping an even angle while navigating a curved belly
Thanks though 😁
Geez, every single recurve lol
I grab the ceramic rod hanging out in the open in my kitchen more often than the sharpmaker, just for that reason
Have you buy chance tried their diamond stones for higher grade steels? I've heard a little talk about them, but they aren't cheap
I've got plenty of lower end steels that work great on the ceramics. I've done s30/35 on them a couple times without too much fanfare, but I hear things about this steels needing diamond to cut the vanadium carbides and anything softer will leave them proud until you wear around them, then they'll fall out.... But, yeah, i dunno....i don't check my knives with microscopes lol (razors get a loupe if they aren't feeling right, but that's about the extent of it)
I'll have to spend some time actually looking into it out of curiosity
Lol Broke out the diamond plates tonight. One thing I don't like about the sharpmaker is it can easily round tips when you come off the rods... This one was very rounded after some use and a few lazy SM sharpenings
Whether the diamond works better for the s30vn or not, no denying it's the best way to deal with a straight edge and keep a nasty point!
Freehand, just feeling for the angle. Sorry for the slightly fuzzy cellphone pic. And yes, the ricasso area has been screwed up since I got the knife. One of the days I'll get around to grinding in a little sharpening choil.
That stupid bit was both wider and lower than the edge since day one 🙄
Pete did a great review of the Sharpmaster and 4 other systems on youtube: https://youtu.be/espj9njITkE
Thanks though 😁