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Handcrafted in the central highlands of Vietnam—an area with a history of producing quality furniture—the Pangean Series tables from Byer of Maine are stylish enough for your patio and durable enough for tailgates or car camping trips. They have a unique folding design that allows them to fold down flat for easier storage in a closet or trunk Read More
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I wouldn't call myself a Mainer, because I've been living in Maine for only 7 years or so, but it's where my home is.
Yeah, I'm not really happy with the fact that they are still calling themselves " of maine", when they stopped making things in Maine. There are a lot of Maine manufacturing companies that are trying to make things work to produce things in Maine. Rancourt (shoemaker) is a famous example that people massdrop are familiar with.
Lumber industry used to be the main driving force of Maine economy, but now it is crumbling. Rumford, a town that used to be known for lumber, is all dead. They have houses that are going at $30,000. It's as cheap as a budget car.
And as a furniture "manufacturer", the company ditched the most important industry in the state. It's fine to outsource. It's what capitalism is, but it's really, really unethical to still have that name. Not only it's misleading, but it's a betrayal to the state.
@jshields, I don't blame you for outsourcing your production. It's what it is. I'm in a manufacturing industry, and I understand the situation. But if you feel bad at all, please drop the "of maine" part.
I understand your position, but unfortunately, I disagree.
I'm also a designer at a manufacturing company in Maine. (not furniture) When I design a product, I work closely with the assemblers. Sure, we give them paychecks, but it's more than a paycheck for them. They have pride in what they produce. Some of them voluntarily work for free if they aren't happy with what they produce. That's a big part of "Maine heritage". The pride that true Mainers have in the production is what completes Maine heritage. How could it possibly called a Maine product if there's no Maine "blood" on it?
sure, great customer service and historic design philosophy also plays a big role in that maine heritage, but I believe that heritage of anything goes beyond just the design/CS.
Artisanal manufacturing has been a long heritage of Maine economy. Lumber and related manufacturing is even more important. Lewiston used to be big, but now it's, sadly, struggling to bring back that economic momentum. I'm sure you know why. There are many towns in north of portland that struggle for the exact same reason. A friend of mine, who holds a graduate degree in lumber science, and works at a paper mill in Rumford, gets to see that depression every single day. He does his best to keep the business in Maine as long as possible. Another friend of mine runs another paper mill, and he does his best to keep the company in Maine. Why? Because the lumber and related businesses is THE heritage of maine economy.
If I were you, as a producer of lumber product, I would feel more responsible to keep the manufacturing heritage in Maine as long as possible. Sadly, I'm not you. You are not me. You own/manage the company, and I don't. So it's up to you. It's up to you to walk around and tell others that you run a Maine company.
And I'm making my choice. I disagree with your philosophy. I wouldn't say anything bad about the quality/design of your product. However, I can make a judgement on your philosophy of manufacturing. With that in mind, I don't think your company is something that I can recommend to people around me.
My mom used to tell me: "The result isn't everything. It's the process". You might have a great product. You might have a product that resembles what you used to make in Maine. However, you lost the process. It's not "Maine" anymore. At least I don't see it that way.
Good luck with your business.
I am Jay Shields, President and owner at Byer and responsible for product sourcing.
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"Byer of Maine" = "Handcrafted in the central highlands of Vietnam" ?
As if the central highlands of Vietnam means something other than, or better than, plain old "Made in VIETNAM"?
Does it also mean the guys who own the company live in Maine, but decided it was cheaper to have this stuff made in Vietnam instead of in Maine, or maybe North Carolina, where furniture in this country used to be made, and where the factories there still sit idle because...guys in Maine decided to build their stuff where folks work for a butt-load less?
Seriously, I'm aware that damn near everything is made and comes from Asia, but do we also need to buy frivolous/discretionary crap from companies who exploit that labor? Yes, you probably need and can't do without a phone or a computer, but camping/patio furniture?
Would just like to add in passing that Vietnam is one of those countries that still allows prisoner/slave labor--not saying this stuff is made that way (and not say'n it ain't), but we can all pick and chose what we purchase at least to some extent, right?
Suspicious that none of the photos show anyone actually sitting in/on that thing. Looks more like something you'd strap to your back so you could haul an elk or moose home from the hunt.
To give everyone more detail, I'm 5'10" and weigh 225 lbs. It's quite comfortable and a natural sitting position. You sit at a perfect height to match the small table. We have been selling this chair for over 40 years, and it is always one of our top 5 products sold, and we have a large variety of items. The large majority of people love it!!!
SentRIt looks like the Stool is missing. Is that what you are asking for? Is there another item that is missing under "Specs"? They are 18"W x 16"D x 18"H and they way 6lbs. Any other questions please let me know and I can answer them for you. I will also email my friends at MassDrop to get them to add the specs.
My family has had a pair of the previous version of the pangean lounger, known as the Maine Lounger and they are still in great condition after 22 years of use. Great company great products, not to mention the fact that you’re getting them at half the price.