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In the hierarchy of Sennheiser headphones, the 800 Series has few rivals. In this range, you’ll find game-changing models like the HD 800S: flagships with Sennheiser’s innovative ring-radiator drivers and optimized open-back design Read More
The headband says made in Germany - Can EU buyers get them sent directly from Sennheiser? It would save people like myself ~$300 + a couple of dollars in shipping.
Rumours has it that neither Sennheiser nor Drop will help with support of HD6xx in case of problems or if anything breaks. Can you if this is gonna be the same for HD8xx? I've luckily never had problems with my HD6xx, but it's quite expensive for a pair of headphone HD8xx if no one will support them
Drop supports the warranty for 6XX using replacement units and parts from Sennheiser. They supply the parts, we manage support.
Same story with all DROP + Sennheiser products, including the 8XX. Replacements via Sennheiser, Customer Engagement via DROP.
Mat86Why all this talk about EQing? This is an audiophile-level headphone, and using it only for gaming and computer listening is way overkill. To get the best out of any high quality 'phone you listen through a quality headphone amp or integrated amp which do not come with equalizers. So for those of us who won't touch EQing because of its compromises, the need for a 'phone without tweaking is paramount.
output555If you cared about being uncompromising, you'd buy an EQ. Simple. Relying on an amp/phone stack to line up perfectly out the box is a fools goal IMO
I mean its funny, you won't introduce something that tweaks the signal to your chain, but you'll use headphones that are tweaked and modified physically?
output555I can not fathom an audiophile that doesn't like to use EQ. A decent parametric EQ or APO equalizer (which is free) are a must for any audiophile. There's pretty much no headphone that sounds "perfect" out of the box in terms of frequency response.
LL80I guess your definition of an audiophile is someone who does their listening on a computer with headphones. A true audiophile doesn't accept compromises like cheap computer DACs or compressed music files. Instead, they play their music on high-end audio components. While no component is perfect, a true audiophile understands that owning high-quality gear is all about listening to the music as recorded in as a true a manner as possible. EQing is the opposite of what they are looking for. To put it another way: Any true audiophile would rather gargle bleach than EQ. That is why you will find absolutely no equalizers made by high-end audio companies. They went out of fashion in the 90s along with Tone controls.
Post your comment on Audiogon and prepare to be humiliated.
output555" true audiophile understands that owning high-quality gear is all about listening to the music as recorded in as a true a manner as possible"
You do know that each headphones have a different frequency response right? How do you know which headphones/audio device the audio engineer wanted you to listen to?
Check the following websites, maybe I can change your mind:
https://audiosciencereview.com/ - a forum for objectivist audiophiles
https://www.reddit.com/r/oratory1990/wiki/index/ - a preset to EQ your headphones to the Harman Target.
By the way, I'll post my comment anywhere, I couldn't careless what people think about my opinions.
LL80Audioscience review is a joke... reminds me of the late Julian Hirsch.
All they do is measure, they don't bother to LISTEN.
As the guy said, a true audiophile won't use equalizers or tone controls. That's why there are many headphones around... buy the one that suits your listening biases and don't introduce additional distortion or noise. That's why most audiophiles, the ones I know and me, have several headphones/IEMs around... as well as several DACs, etc...
I do disagree that audiophiles don't listen to PCs, though. There are many modern DACs that can be driven successfully over a USB connection. Even a lowly Android device can drive a good DAC and a good set of headphones. Heck, I use one such set up to drive Tidal HiFi into the AUX input of my main system's tube preamp. Sure, the DAC cost$$$$ but it sounds awesome!
LL80I just happen to
be one of them. If the physical design/out of the box doesn’t produce what I’m looking for it gets sold and I’m someone who has put around $20,000 into his build in the past. EQ just tweaks the signal. It’s not a magic bullet for the design of a headphone.
Many many people wanted more bass, and to do that without a masking effect and less perceived detail, the whole frequency response needs to be reconsidered.
Check out the ASR review of the HD800S, they're missing energy below 100hz and missing some energy at 1-5khz. It looks like the HD 8XX will still need a little EQ to bring them to the Harman target response curve, but they do look a little better than the HD800S. I'm not sure how much you can take away from the "highs" changing in the HD 8XX, that part of the frequency response is usually hard to measure due to lots of audio reflections
dm94aq7Yes, audio reflections in the human/measurement ear, plus a masking effect when multiple tones are being played simultaneously. Actual musical performance isn’t well reflected by frequency response graphs, but it is one of the easiest measurements that can be taken by reviewers.
A misunderstanding- no additional discount on the THX789. It's still 300 bucks. They were trying to say you can spend all the reward points you got from this purchase ($200) plus an additional $99 from your wallet to get the amp.