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I passed up a deal on these at $180 new. They weren't worth that price either. At $500, you got to be out of your damn mind to buy these.
xnobysYou have absolutely no clue as to what you're talking about. Just stop. These demolish most headphones under $500, and definitely anything from Hifiman. Don't spread propaganda, and stay in your lane. You're embarrassing yourself.
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craval85That's a lot of passion for a guy a year and a half late to the party. Why bother at this point? The point is moot. Just enjoy your gear.
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