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A collaboration between NovelKeys and Kailh, this custom-made switch is fitted with the same stem as the Speed Switch Series, now with a heavier spring and custom color. Just like the Speed Switches, these are made with 3.5 millimeters of total travel with 1.1 to 1.4 millimeters of pre-travel for a quicker actuation than standard switches Read More
I notice these don't have the plastic stabilization stems like I see on my other cherry mx compatible switches. I still have an ergodox infinity keyboard to put together, could I use these switches on a keyboard that requires soldering? Or are these just meant for the swappable switch keyboards?
yorgasorI believe you're talking about plate mounting vs PCB mounting. Sounds like you have a set of PCB mount switches, these are plate mount switches (https://support.wasdkeyboards.com/hc/en-us/articles/115009270628-Plate-Mounted-vs-PCB-Mounted-Switches). If the Ergodox requires switches of the PCB mounting variety, then these will not work. It isn't specific to swappable switch keyboards though, I don't think, I'm pretty sure it's just the mounting type.
I was comparing the spec sheets of the box heavies and speed heavies and noticed that the speed heavies have a significantly higher bottom out force. For example, the Box Heavy Dark Yellow has a bottom out force of about 70g, but the Speed Heavy Dark Yellow has a bottom out force of about 100g.
What is the difference between these two switches that would cause them to have different bottom out forces? Are the springs different, or is this just a difference between the standard and box architectures?
fer.realI believe it is the travel distance in general. The idea with the speed vs box, regardless of heavies, is that to actuate the speeds requires just over 1mm of travel, vs the box heavy which triggers at just shy of 2mm. Since the overall travel for the speed is intended to be not bottomed out as often as the box I think the resistance for bottoming out is higher. Compare the curve of the box heavy orange (https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/3099/8088/files/CPG1511F01S07-Burnt_Orange_BOX.pdf?8088525692751228243) and you can see the bump for the speed is immediate, at like 0.1mm but the bump for box is at 0.6. Anyhow, all of this is to say that I think speed switches encourage not bottoming out thus the higher resistance, and heavy encourages allowing you to rest your fingers on the keys without actuating them.
$21.75 to Australia for me. I don't understand how it's so high. I just tried joining a drop for a full size keyboard, and the shipping is $21. Shipping a full size keyboard, switches and all, is cheaper than shipping switches for a 60%...
hittingrayCompletely agree. 100 switches is not a heavy package. It seem inconsistent also. For example I bought a keyboard, recently, that would have included 70 switches an aluminium plate, cables, key caps etc. $15.96 to Australia??
blakstealthI actually haven't ever used any standard browns (Cherry, Gateron, or otherwise) if you can believe it, but to me they definitely feel slightly more tactile than the Gateron Silent Browns I have, though not as quiet obviously.
Total (USD)$47.49
about as much for shipping and handling as for the actual product and then I would have to pay an extra $15 for import duties and fees
This is possibly a silly question, but I can't find the answer in the discussion or on the product page. Are these compatible with those plate-mounted Outemu switch keyboards?