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SRM Knives 9008 Titanium Frame Lock Knife

SRM Knives 9008 Titanium Frame Lock Knife

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The 9008 model from SRM, strikes a good balance between tactical and elegant. With respect to size, the knife measures 8.2 inches, with a stout 12C27 stainless steel blade Read More

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massdrop01
783
May 21, 2019
Get a Kershaw blur for cheaper price. Or Bareknuckle for a couple of $ more.
massdrop01
783
May 21, 2019
Probably not worth it. The selling point at this price is the titanium handle. Better spend your money on Tangram, Kizer, Civivi, Bestech, Real Steel or even some made in America Kershaw model for much better value.
microgeekbrandon
28
May 20, 2019
SRM = Sanrenmu WTF Massdrop/DROP?! Sanremu has made their name making cheap Ali Express clones of other people designs. This knife bears a strong resemblance to a Kershaw Cryo and SRM has made a business out of stealing other knife makers intellectual property to create Chinese clones. I can’t see supporting DROP if they continue to sell SRM. I can’t see other American makers supporting this either. Do Protech or Ferrum Forge really want their blades offered alongside products from the same people who brought the knife world the 710/Sebenza clone?
reswright
3850
May 23, 2019
microgeekbrandonWell, they do if they sell their knives alongside the Cryo. SRM is the OEM for the Kershaw Cryo. No doubt they somehow underhandedly stole that contract from Kershaw when Kershaw wasn't paying attention, those wily Chinese bastards. Someone better get the word out before it's too late and they start picking up Spyderco work too -- oh wait, too late. Dude, western companies and western contracts BUILT SRM. And the biggest names in western knives are working with them today. It's just a little more complex than you're letting on. By all means, feel about them however you want to feel - I won't stop you. I doubt I could. Fear and loathing of Chinese knife companies is a spectator sport in America and people participate in it as a bonding ritual. They help validate their credentials as red blooded Americans in this fashion. Some people call it virtue signaling, others call it ingrouping, but it all amounts to building rapport with people in your group by dumping on a mutually disdained topic. And on this topic, like many others in American politics, these days people need to get a sense of what 'side' you're on before they even want to consider what you're saying, and if they decide you're on the wrong 'side' they stop listening, so it's not like I could talk you out of your opinion anyway. But it's just kinda funny to hear people cheering Kershaw as American. They're owned by KAI which is Japanese and the vast majority of the knives they make are made in China. SRM makes a ton of them, matter of fact. As far as the business aspect of it, I also agree that people should vote with their wallet and their feet, the way I see it. For my money? I'd frankly rather see more SRM value options than another bland $100-150 Ferrum Forge stonewashed S35VN folder that'll get 'patina' with casual use and that even the designer thinks is someone else's knife (because it is - the FF knives on Drop might be American designed, but they're all made by WE Knife in China and the designer has fuckall to do with it once they agree to allow the knife to be made.) So the good news is, at least one of us has a chance to be happy with Drop going forward. My bet is, it's gonna be me, as they've already recently marketed several SRM knives under different names. The cloning argument? Sure, we can have that. You can tell me that Chris Reeve Knives, a company that no longer even employs Chris Reeve, making $500 knives, $400 of which goes to executives and shareholders... a company that almost every American can't afford to buy from anyway because of the cost, but won't make budget versions because it'd cheapen their brand and diminish the value of stock options... you can tell me they're the good guys. And you can tell me that SRM, who copied a 30 year old design with good but less expensive materials and stunning workmanship and is selling them for under $20, you can tell me they're the bad guys. I don't think I'm buying that, though. I keep coming back to that $480 and how it means that someone somewhere at CRK is completely full of shit when they talk about their costs, and how these Chinese cats -- some of whom are third generation knifemakers, the children of knifemakers who were the children of knifemakers, with all the skills and heritage that comes with -- made me a Land 910 for under $20. I think the major western brands are all on the same page, judging by how much work they pitch to SRM. We're in a trade war, right? I get that. But it's worth keeping something in mind: the Chinese didn't come over here and shut down those American knife factories. Our own people, the owners of those factories, shut those factories down and moved the production to China so they could make more money. Full stop. It's safer to hate the Chinese for it, and people certainly spend a lot of money trying to get you to blame China for what we've done in America to ourselves.... but they're just the guys who applied for the job that these people fired Americans from. The people who chose to screw us live much closer to home. Or at least they used to before they moved to tax havens where they go about hiding all their income. You might want to take a closer look at 'em before you keep dancing to their tune. They might not be as American as you believe, by nationality or by spirit. Two cents, keep both
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Laserbait
40
May 18, 2019
What is the country of origin?
massdrop01
783
May 21, 2019
LaserbaitChina, this company is well known for making clones of other more popular brands. For the price there are better Chinese brands out there like Civivi, Kizer or Real Steel etc.
Cel.DS
31
May 18, 2019
Nah... I paid another knife longer, lighter, same steel and handle material (fancier design) under $50.
reswright
3850
May 17, 2019
So I have the non-titanium version of this knife. It's a good blade.
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Action's slightly on the tighter side -- kinda like how they do the Ruikes compared to how they do the regular San Ren Mu knives. Nothing wrong with it, nothing catching, just wants a skosh more force to activate, and then it fires just fine and locks up strong. It's got good ergonomics and the build quality is excellent. All the features are meaningful, there's no design frippery or wasted elements. And it's sharp. These SRM knives are I believe the latest western-facing knives manufactured by SanRenMu. These manufacturers are actively trying to build and establish brands in the Western marketplace -- they have the expertise to make it worthwhile but the nature of their subcontracting work to the big name knife manufacturers of the West has precluded any sort of brand building until the last five or so years. So these companies are definitely putting their best foot forward with these Westernized brands they're putting out, and trying to connect to the marketplace and build a loyal following of people who love the quality. They're keeping the prices as low as they can to facilitate this grab at market share, because they're overcoming a lot of negatives to get Westerners to buy them (think about all the things people say about Chinese knives, even as they buy them). So they're really going balls out on quality. What all this means for us is right now some of the very best deals on quality knives are coming from these up and coming Chinese firms. If you look around you can find some SRM branded knives that are actually Real Steel models -- their higher end branding. The SRM knives are selling for about half or two thirds the price of the Real Steel models but it is the same knife. This thing is plenty rugged and not too heavy. I'm sure the titanium version is lighter, and it's not really that much more expensive considering what titanium handled knives go for - i might eventually pick it up, but as is the case with a lot of knives I buy, I can't really speak to why I'd need it. The bad news at least for Drop is that you can find this exact model in titanium and regular for considerably less, from a reputable online knife store that's already been mentioned here - Chicago Knife Works - and while that seller ships a little more slowly than most of the other online knife superstores, I still get my stuff within two weeks, which is faster than here by a fair margin on most drops. (Sometimes we forget that before Amazon that was considered fast! Perspective is a funny thing.)
bdpf
233
May 18, 2019
reswrightBTW, I love the TwoSun from Vitesse Design in your pic, scored one for $51 on the bay and it's an awesome value at this price, excellent fit and finish and smooth as silk. The only thing that sucks is the pocket clip, almost impossible to go in and out of jeans. I'll need to take it off and sand it down when I'll get a chance.
reswright
3850
May 18, 2019
bdpfThat's the Jaeger. Some of the old Night Morning knives have a clip on them that is so wretchedly bad that I end up shortening them with a vise. The first one I did on accident in just trying to bend the tip a bit back down so it wasn't jabbing me in the palm. Snapped it clean off -- the metal's brittle and it turns out oddly banded, like unetched pattern welded steel. But a little work with a file and a bit of Dremel polish and suddenly the clip was a hundred times better. Did the worst of the rest of them in short order. NMD has since started to work with a better clip but examples of the old one are still easy to find on the bay. The Jaeger has a different clip, and not as bad as the old NMD ones -- but still, no one's ever going to say 'the best thing about a TwoSun is the clip'. Where those stuck out like cocktail spears this one hugs the handle like a badger trying to go to earth. I can clip it to my vest pocket ok but it is indeed a bit fiddly putting it back on. (Drawing it's fine for me.) I figure if I were going to carry this in my pants pocket I'd do something similar to what you plan. Looks like it won't be that hard to round, considering what it's made of.
Gamaliel
80
May 17, 2019
ZUK2012That's not the titanium version... although I don't know that it matters since the blade is the same steel.
ZUK2012
6
May 17, 2019
GamalielThey show the 9008SB – Stainless Steel for $35.00 here on Drop but is $30.75 at Amazon. Titanium model cheaper at $59.99 at CHICAGO KNIFE WORKS which bdpf already has a link in discussion.
bdpf
233
May 17, 2019
BTW, cheaper here and you don't have to wait a month. https://chicagoknifeworks.com/framelock-tc4-titanium
Kavik
5531
May 17, 2019
Hmmmm, only checked the first link on a Google search (Amazon), and found these for $30 and $70 🤷🏻‍♂️
GeeTrio
18
May 17, 2019
Am I the only one who thinks this looks similar to the Kerahaw Cryo?
diesel5788
5
May 20, 2019
GeeTrioYup, me too....so close to the cryo
GeeTrio
18
May 21, 2019
(1) Thank you for the response! (2) That business idea is amazing. You should totally do that! I like Kershaw knives, but I always wished they had better steel choices. (3) I did some snooping and say your incredible knife collection. I’d be lying if I said I wasn’t jealous!
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Well, they do if they sell their knives alongside the Cryo. SRM is the OEM for the Kershaw Cryo. No doubt they somehow underhandedly stole that contract from Kershaw when Kershaw wasn't paying attention, those wily Chinese bastards. Someone better get the word out before it's too late and they start picking up Spyderco work too -- oh wait, too late. Dude, western companies and western contracts BUILT SRM. And the biggest names in western knives are working with them today. It's just a little more complex than you're letting on. By all means, feel about them however you want to feel - I won't stop you. I doubt I could. Fear and loathing of Chinese knife companies is a spectator sport in America and people participate in it as a bonding ritual. They help validate their credentials as red blooded Americans in this fashion. Some people call it virtue signaling, others call it ingrouping, but it all amounts to building rapport with people in your group by dumping on a mutually disdained topic. And on this topic, like many others in American politics, these days people need to get a sense of what 'side' you're on before they even want to consider what you're saying, and if they decide you're on the wrong 'side' they stop listening, so it's not like I could talk you out of your opinion anyway. But it's just kinda funny to hear people cheering Kershaw as American. They're owned by KAI which is Japanese and the vast majority of the knives they make are made in China. SRM makes a ton of them, matter of fact. As far as the business aspect of it, I also agree that people should vote with their wallet and their feet, the way I see it. For my money? I'd frankly rather see more SRM value options than another bland $100-150 Ferrum Forge stonewashed S35VN folder that'll get 'patina' with casual use and that even the designer thinks is someone else's knife (because it is - the FF knives on Drop might be American designed, but they're all made by WE Knife in China and the designer has fuckall to do with it once they agree to allow the knife to be made.) So the good news is, at least one of us has a chance to be happy with Drop going forward. My bet is, it's gonna be me, as they've already recently marketed several SRM knives under different names. The cloning argument? Sure, we can have that. You can tell me that Chris Reeve Knives, a company that no longer even employs Chris Reeve, making $500 knives, $400 of which goes to executives and shareholders... a company that almost every American can't afford to buy from anyway because of the cost, but won't make budget versions because it'd cheapen their brand and diminish the value of stock options... you can tell me they're the good guys. And you can tell me that SRM, who copied a 30 year old design with good but less expensive materials and stunning workmanship and is selling them for under $20, you can tell me they're the bad guys. I don't think I'm buying that, though. I keep coming back to that $480 and how it means that someone somewhere at CRK is completely full of shit when they talk about their costs, and how these Chinese cats -- some of whom are third generation knifemakers, the children of knifemakers who were the children of knifemakers, with all the skills and heritage that comes with -- made me a Land 910 for under $20. I think the major western brands are all on the same page, judging by how much work they pitch to SRM. We're in a trade war, right? I get that. But it's worth keeping something in mind: the Chinese didn't come over here and shut down those American knife factories. Our own people, the owners of those factories, shut those factories down and moved the production to China so they could make more money. Full stop. It's safer to hate the Chinese for it, and people certainly spend a lot of money trying to get you to blame China for what we've done in America to ourselves.... but they're just the guys who applied for the job that these people fired Americans from. The people who chose to screw us live much closer to home. Or at least they used to before they moved to tax havens where they go about hiding all their income. You might want to take a closer look at 'em before you keep dancing to their tune. They might not be as American as you believe, by nationality or by spirit. Two cents, keep both
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