Audio Myths... A mostly civilized discussion
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OK before this even begins.. STOP!
Many myths have existed for many years and while I am sure heated debate will arise I want to ask everyone to respect the rules of these forums. Act civilized. State your point of view, be open to other peoples point of view and hopefully we can at least UNDERSTAND where people are coming from and not just arguing for the sheer joy of it.
I guess I will start.
HEADPHONE and SPEAKER BURN-IN
A topic that comes up for me pretty often and yes.. I do think something happens when you take a BRAND NEW off the assembly line moving driver dynamic speaker with suspensions and surrounds and webbing and run it for X hours. Now I am not saying you have to do this. It may not even benefit you or if there is a change it might be so small it isn't worth even thinking about. But Physics dictates if a precision device has a job of moving hundredths of a millimeter then I expect if it gets used initially then the moving fabric, foam and rubber parts may stretch and wear and perform differently then bone dry stock parts that have never moved before.
So can it be real? I say yes. Can it be measured. It should be possible. Is it worth fighting over? Of course not. Many people attribute the change you "hear" during burn-in to the human ear simply adapting to the sound. Like listening to a tone for long enough that it disappears. But my usual advice is .. "If you like it out of the box, enjoy" I usually just put headphone and speakers I dislike though the hours of hard running, away from my ears and then assess later.

I will let you guys take over the next topic, Tone Arms, Headphone Cables, Interconnects, Cable Risers, Tubes..
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Adam11
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Jan 3, 2020
Does he sing?
Adam11
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Jan 3, 2020
Hi to everyone
Motorrad
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Dec 31, 2019
Myth: if someone has a YouTube channel and thousands of subscribers, they must know what they are talking about.
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Motorrad
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Jan 18, 2020
I'm pretty certain that there's no reason I would ever watch a how to set up a theater tutorial from Zeos. His reviews are about as accurate as a horoscope. If someone keeps talking, chances are they'll be correct at some point. That being said, he's still more correct than Oluv.
LuckyLuke575
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Jan 18, 2020
He just rants and raves and throws a lot of super subjective opinions mixed in with jokes and nonsense. And a lot of the time it felt like watching a vanity channel because he spends half the time pointing out all the gear he has. At the most, he is a half decent source for discovering new gear that's breaking into the market as he tends to get and review stuff pretty quick. I find Joshua Valor to be a way better source for info; he has way better production and visuals, and he really tries to give a comprehensive, objective and professional review of the gear. I've found that I agree with his assessments on all the gear I either own or have listened to IRL.
titaniumtv
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Sep 18, 2019
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GuitarStruck
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Aug 14, 2019
Question: I've read that if you play headphones continuously for over 4 or 5 hours, that can damage the headphones, at least with certain amp designs. Something about the components overheating. Is this true? Doesn't make much sense to me.
If you stay within the max power rating you will be just fine. The power rating usually results in deafening volume levels that you could not sustain for 4-5 hours at a time. Now cheap headphones may grossly overstate their maximum input power and die from being overdriven but that does not translate to properly designed products with valid specifications.
Mowgli66
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May 13, 2019
ANY dynamic driver will looses up and sound better after a while. While working in the business for 30 years, I have had many opportunities to experience that difference first-hand. Some drivers don't need muc, but some reuire a very long time. Pink noise generator run at low, but incresing volume was what I found the best way.
sszorin
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Aug 14, 2019
loosens up
VixxZ
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Jan 2, 2020
How is it like with other types of driver? Such as BA, planars, electrostats, ribbons?
wireal
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May 9, 2019
my hd559 sounded like crap in the first 10 hours it had thupn base and crap. like a 10$ headphone. it was way worse than my HD449 then it balanced out. and sounds great now! with the hd 6xx in the other hand there was no burn in.
Adam11
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Jan 3, 2020
J;l only
Adam11
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Jan 3, 2020
Only. Jbl
TheRequiem
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May 9, 2019
Some brands burin in their units in the factory. Look at Audeze.
Adam11
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Jan 3, 2020
emkay
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Apr 18, 2019
I tested the whole burn-in thing on my own ears, now I'm deaf. Saved me a fortune.
VixxZ
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Jan 2, 2020
Stonks
Mi.Rog
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Apr 15, 2019
Myths usually don't drive me crazy. In myths we believe or we believe not. If someone believes in stands for speaker cables for instance....
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...that's fine with me. If one can stand paying $30.000/2m and it makes him happy, no problem. The question is how close from FRAUD is selling such staff. I wonder what do you think about that. Not in the scale like above, but once it happened to me too - a seller tried to fraud me and I recall this experience every time when talking about audio myths. Some 30 years ago, looking for some decent interconnection cables (decent=well done, robust) I dropped into an audio shop and asked a seller to show me some stuff with moderate price. He did but looked very unhappy with that so I asked him if he can recommend something. He glared immediately! He grabbed a cable from behind and showed me like it was a Holy Grail: DIRECTIONAL interconnect. With an arrow on a plug showing... direction? It was plain fraud, so I was stonewalled for a minute or more, standing with the cable in my hand like an idiot in front of the professor and I didn't know what to say. Then I asked him what is the arrow for and the answer was what I did expect: I should connect transport to preamp according to the direction of sound (SOUND!!!). And then he looked at me, looked at my face which probably looked like the face of a mime who didn't get applause, and he explained that sound (SOUND!!!) flows from the source (=transport) to destination (preamp). The cable costed $100. Looked like $30 cable (IMO expansive) + an arrow engraved on the plug for $5. Which makes it a pretty good margin. I didn't discuss, didn't argue, just left. Maybe he believed in it? Than was it a fraud or not?
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Mowgli66
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May 13, 2019
Single end grounding doesn't have much effect, but interconnect quality is way more important than speaker cable. Very low voltage and much more susceptible to (particularly) RF interference and small changes in capacitance and inductance. Is it useful on a Bose system? (Not an effing chance).
nick_t
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May 20, 2019
How do you afford all these ?
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