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Varholiaglimp
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Jun 14, 2018
LucQc: I agree with your overall strategy of making it clear to American businesses that Trump's behavior at G7 will have stifling economic consequences. However, I suspect that if you polled the people who run Massdrop, you'd discover you're refusing to support a business with a favorable outlook on Canada. Massdrop clearly supports and embodies diversity and most its staff probably opposes Trump's isolationism, though I doubt they'd want to make political statements, let alone in a polarized environment as a business that caters to people on every side of the political spectrum. Amazon, with its ties to the Washington Post, is another such pro-Canadian business.
My strategy is to research U.S. businesses that actively support Trump and his treatment of non-authoritarian leaders, and then refuse to support *those* businesses.
LucQc
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Jun 14, 2018
Varholiaglimp« you'd discover you're refusing to support a business with a favorable outlook on Canada [...] though I doubt they'd want to make political statements, let alone in a polarized environment as a business that caters to people on every side of the political spectrum »
A good start would be to clearly state that they're excusing to their Canadian customers. Saying nothing is somehow also supporting the spoiled bra. The tariffs alone will start to impact business between our 2 countries and invoking security risk to USA with Canada is insulting. POTUS acted like if he was not aware of what was said on « Meet The Press » a week earlier and at same time he is friendly with a dictator? Are you suggesting I should bent and say « thank you master » to USA?
'Till USA's citizens clearly showed me in mid term elections next fall that they understood that POTUS is not protecting USA's workers I'll have to say no thanks.
Sorry, USA's businesses should be in damage control mode with their customers living outside USA.
Varholiaglimp
939
Jun 14, 2018
LucQcYou wrote: “Are you suggesting I should bent and say thank you master to USA?”
I was partly raised in Vancouver, BC, and the last thing I would do to any Canadian is ask them to bow down to someone who treats allies like enemies and authoritarians like friends. I’m only suggesting that I personally don’t want to punish North Americans in the U.S. who oppose Trump, and that my support for U.S. businesses is predicated on their support for immigrants and our allies.
If you want to know more about who’s behind the U.S.’s sudden bad faith re international and climate change agreements, read Dark Money, by Jane Mayer, and watch the documentary The Finest Democracy Money Can Buy, by Greg Palast, which is available for free on Amazon Prime. Most Americans side with you, but their votes are being suppressed.
LucQc
212
Jun 14, 2018
VarholiaglimpI can live with POTUS trash talking and attacking Trudeauu or others politicians. What I do not take is threats to every Canadian citizens like « That's going to cost a lot of money for the people of Canada » or pretending French Speaking citizens of Lower Canada sat fire in Washinton.
Here is something you should also read:
« The Burning of Washington
In the final summer of the War of 1812, British presence in the Chesapeake region was strengthened in an effort to divert the American forces from the frontiers of Upper and Lower Canada. Frustrated by the growing damages wrought by invading US troops, Sir George Prevost had instructed General Robert Ross, Admiral Alexander Cochrane, and Admiral George Cockburn to retaliate and "deter the enemy from repetition of similar outrages." In late August of 1814, that retaliation took shape with the capture and burning of Washington. »
At the end of the day, remaining silent and doing nothing is also not helping those who are victims of dark money.

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Varholiaglimp
939
Jun 15, 2018
LucQcThough I was raised partly in Vancouver, I spent a fair amount of time in Quebec (specifically Montreal) giving classical/experimental performances in 2002-4. What impressed me most was that Lieutenant Governor Lise Thibault came to the first performance and thanked me personally -- from her wheelchair! -- which is something that no U.S. politician would do. That kind of localized effort involves support of the arts at the fringe and community-conscious level. I can also say that in my experience, audiences were more patiently supportive in Quebec than they tend to be in New York.
One thing I gleaned was that certain locals resented Americans who couldn't or wouldn't speak French (though they seemed to make exceptions for artists). This is not entirely a reactionary stance. My sense was that it had to do with an expectation of basic respect that should be shown by a tourist, which in turn involves the French language as a symbol of French-Canadian independence. My takeawry (cough): If one intends to visit that part of Canada, one should learn to speak French conversationally.
While I was there, I heard an album that consisted of phrases in French that were spoken and played on guitar simultaneously. The album was a tribute to the French language and to its meaning for French-Canadians. I wrote down the name of the guitarist and album but lost the piece of paper when we went through border inspection and an idiot who was traveling with us told authorities that one of the sets from a dance piece was a model of the World Trade Center(!). Several hours and confiscations later . . . .
I've tracked down nearly all of the experimental music I heard (and read as sheet music) during my stay, but that one album by the guitarist has eluded me so far.
I also remember meeting one of the main people at the label Alien8 and being impressed with how elaborate and high-quality CD packaging was back then. From then on, I noted that physical media from Canada seemed always to be packaged more conceptually and expensively than what was produced in the U.S. That has to have changed with physical media's demise (except among purists and audiophiles).
LucQc
212
Jun 15, 2018
Varholiaglimp « I also remember meeting one of the main people at the label Alien8 and being impressed with how elaborate and high-quality CD packaging was back then. »
Don't know if it make you happy, I am buying from the artist in downloadable and sometimes physical media from the artist(s) if possible because I know too well it,s hard to earn his living for them. It really pisses me off when someone around me is complaining the government is subsidizing Independent Music of Film Making. Regarding French, I'm not sure they « should learn to speak French conversationally », from my experience though at least learning to say basics words and sentences like for examples saying « Hello , « Thank you » in Spanish or even more saying it in Quechua or Aymara will do miracles for you when in Peru, Bolivia, Ecuador.
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