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DeadeyeDave
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Jun 20, 2024
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That Veritech Fighter colorway, tho...
As for folks complaining about the layout - this is decidedly a hyper-niche product, even within the niche of expensive mechanical keyboards. It's an Angry Miao product - this is literally what they do. There are more layout choices available now than ever before - this is just one of them.
DeadeyeDave
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Jun 22, 2024
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mouse_mdNot sure what qualifies a "typist" and who decided they were united on this issue - but this is the second round of this keyboard, so I guess enough "toy collectors" were into it the first time. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
mouse_md
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Jun 23, 2024
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DeadeyeDaveAt $700 each, how many would you really need to sell before it turns a profit? Five? Ten? Maybe even twice that? Just a handful of confused old people could fund a whole nother batch from china.
Screenshot your GWAM:
https://www.keyhero.com/free-typing-test/
DeadeyeDave
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Jun 24, 2024
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mouse_mdIf you really want to know, ask AM - they're the ones that have been doing it for a living. You could also ask any number of manufacturers that produce for keyboard designers, like Mastars in China. They make everything from budget boards to high-end customs and artisans.
Oh dear... are you chest-puffing about WPM? In this discussion? I guess I'll spell it out for you: I thought your gate-keeping behavior was funny and that's why I commented in the first place.
Let's just assume you're the fastest, most accurate typist who ever typed. Let's also acknowledge that AM alienates most potential buyers with their prices alone, never mind their niche designs. I still think the gatekeeping is laughable. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
mouse_md
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Jun 25, 2024
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DeadeyeDaveIf you can't speak for AM, then why were you speaking for AM?
If you thought my comment was funny, then why didn't you respond to it directly? Instead, you made a comment about me, but not to me, like you're afraid I would say something back.
And it's not gatekeeping. Anybody can learn how to type. Most simply refuse to apply themselves. To you, I'm puffing up my chest. To me, I'm just always this muscular. It's simply what happens when you apply yourself.
So how's that GWAM coming? Do you still need more time?
DeadeyeDave
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Jul 9, 2024
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mouse_mdDo what, exactly? Name calling? Pretending we're on Reddit?
I concede you still appear confused about what I meant.
I didn't @ you originally for two reasons. 1.) it wasn't just about you, hence "folks" 2.) it wasn't for you, but for other readers who might be newer to the "hobby" than either of us.
I did say AM's products are niche - which is a fact - and it's also why I thought your whinging about "the direction the hobby is going" humorous. Their products are about as poor a gauge for that as you could find. I did feel it relevant to point out the absurdity and humor in that, but not necessarily start an argument over it - but here we are.
I don't believe anyone here made any attempt to speak for AM, but you most definitely made an attempt to speak for "typists" which I find absurd. That you seem to think how well you type adds any credibility to this is even more absurd.
I can promise you that you're going to live your entire life without anyone but job recruiters caring about your GWAM, and without anyone across all of space-time being intimidated by it. LOL, indeed.
I can also promise you that you're going to live your entire life without experiencing someone being afraid of what you may or may not say on the internet - it just isn't a thing, anywhere... much less on a Drop.com sales page comments section. More LOLs.
Any more names you want to call me? @mouse_md
mouse_md
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Jul 9, 2024
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DeadeyeDave"but I said folks!"
What folks? Where? There were only two people commenting here; me and another guy who was respectfully defending AM. If you weren't talking about me, then who? Were you disagreeing with the guy who was disagreeing with me?
"my comment wasn't for you! it was for any other people who happen to see it! I wanted to talk about you, to other people, without you knowing!"
I know. That's exactly what I was saying 2 replies ago. I'm not the one who's confused here.
"I just wanted to point out what I thought was funny! It looked like an easy opportunity to have the final say in a one sided discussion against someone who couldn't defend them self unless they saw my comment! I didn't want you to actually respond!"
I know. See above.
"it's absurd that people who use keyboards in any serious capacity should have any serious say in the direction keyboards should go!"
Perhaps you think money should decide this instead? Like I said before, just a small community of confused, old, or lonely people could fund entire batches of keyboards with awful layouts, thereby making those layouts the new standard. That seems to be what is currently happening, hence my first comment. Are you sure you're not confused about what's happening here?
"nobody but job recruiters care about your GWAM!"
Well that's simply not true. You'll find colleges and universities care as well. Mine certainly did.
"having a good GWAM doesn't make you a credible ''''''''''typist''''''''''"
Let's both just sit quietly and think about how dumb that sentiment is.
"nobody is intimidated by a good GWAM!"
You were. That's why you wouldn't post it.
"please stop pointing out the flaws in the products on Drop™.©om®! it's hurting sales!"
No.
"you typed the word coward so that means you called me a coward! want to call me any other names so I can report you?"
Yes. But for now, I'll just stick with "confused."
DeadeyeDave
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Jul 9, 2024
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mouse_mdSee, this is why I was laughing.
Look at all that. None of that is what I actually said but a weakened or outright incorrect interpretation for your benefit - strawman arguments are not what I come to this website for.
By all means, keep getting flustered in circles - it is continually funny. What it isn't though, is worth my time. Rest assured though - I want this thread to stay up for the ages - I won't be reporting you, lol
mouse_md
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Jul 10, 2024
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DeadeyeDave"you paraphrased my sentiments in a way that highlights the flaws in the points I was making!"
If you honestly think paraphrasing is OP, then use it on me.
Either way, I still refuted your central points. You couldn't even try to refute mine. Are you going to whine about getting owned by strawmen all day, or are you going to address a single point I made?
DeadeyeDave
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Jul 15, 2024
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mouse_mdYou misunderstood my central points, and added quite a few nonexistent ones of your own that I won't be addressing.
My actual central point: regardless of your chops as an individual typist, you are the only typist you can speak for.
That being my philosophy and the nature of my criticism towards your position, I'm not inclined to "paraphrase".
I gently pointed out the absurdity of complaining about a niche product as if its dictating the direction of a hobby that's bigger and more diverse than its ever been, and the subsequent incredulity of speaking for others. I happily stand by that, and find the position undaunted by aforementioned strawman arguments and adjacent speculative assertions.
It's okay if you disagree, but taking it as a personal attack is toxic - for you, for the forum, for the hobby. I figured you'd see a discussion thread you're subscribed to by default, btw - I just had no inclination to make the comment about you over the absurd points made and figured you'd either provide some substance to say otherwise or move on. The other thing you missed is that while I was criticizing the core of your assertion, I wasn't criticizing you - until your challenge about GWAM. That's pretty goofy on its face - and I happily stand by that assertion, too.
Be proud of your GWAM and all that, by the way - it sounds like it's something you worked for, it's a valid skill, and you deserve to feel good about it - I even believe you that you're super good at typing. Just coming back around to that original core point: don't think it's going to lend credibility to statements made on behalf of anyone not living in your meat with you.
mouse_md
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Jul 15, 2024
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DeadeyeDave"U R TEH ONLEE TIPIST U CAN SPEEK FORE!!!"
That's pretty much where I stopped reading. Typing is not an art form. You're not painting a mural or sculpting with clay. You're typing. There are standardized rules and methods, and I am speaking on behalf of them. The fact you're still not understanding this further tells me how unknowledgeable you are on this topic, which you incorrectly feel you're qualified to speak on.
Holding the paintbrush by the bristles may work when art is a "no wrong answers" medium, but using a keyboard incorrectly results in a bad GWAM, wrist issues, and, even worse, badly designed keyboards becoming the standard.
Keyboards are a tool and there's only one right way to use them. It's not an elitist mentality. Anybody can learn it, and I've been trying to get you to do just that for nearly a month now. You simply choose not to. You are willfully dumb and seem to think anybody who's not willfully dumb like you is a ridiculous person.
But that matters little, as you probably think most things aren't worth caring about and routinely laugh at anybody does. I have always understood your real intention. You want to point and laugh at somebody for being knowledgeable and outspoken in an area you're too lazy to explore yourself, and for some reason you want to do it on a website that caters to the exact same crowd you're mocking. Under ordinary circumstances, this would simply make you a troll.
Most importantly, you thought you would get a lot of imaginary internet points for it, but instead you got confronted and now you're trying to move goal posts.
As you can see, I understand your intentions perfectly. So you can stop re-explaining them now.
Nice touch pretending you're too good to paraphrase, though. Just a few comments ago your only reply was simply "LOL" like you're a 12 year old boy. But now you have too much integrity and self-respect to paraphrase, huh?
If you can drop $700 on a keyboard, then you can spend an hour learning to use it. It's not an elitist attitude. You're just being lazy.
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