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The CC4 whetstone is designed for honing and finishing folders, fixed blades, kitchen knives, and more. It has two sides: one side made of synthetic sapphires (the dark gray side) for initial sharpening and one super-fine ceramic stone (the white side) to finish off the edge Read More
An interesting thing has occurred to me recently, while doing some research on old barber hones... I'm curious if the same applies here, in relation to the inability to get a straight answer on the grit rating on these Fallkniven stones?
With the old barber hones, the actual grit particles were WAY too coarse for razor finishing, but these stones were for exactly that. How?
The answer was in the prep and finish of the surface of the hone, not in the size of the abrasive particles it contained.
They were made by combining the grit and a binder material and pressing it into a form.
When lapping the surface, using a harder material, you abrade both the binder and the abrasives, but at different rates.
So, lapping with a coarse plate will cut more of the binder material, leaving a larger amount of "grit" protruding from the surface, giving you a coarser stone.
Lapping to progressively finer grits, and burnishing the surface, leaves you with a very fine cutting surface, where the "grit" is more even with the surface, and therefore can't bite in as deeply on the blade, essentially making it a finer stone...without literally changing the grade of the abrasives used to make it
Just my ramling 2 cents, if anyone is interested
haha i saw the chinese 12k, and was like 'oh those amazon ones.' they're still pretty high grit in my experience, but definitely not exactly what is advertised.
definitely gonna try out linen strops, i keep forgetting this is a viable strop material since i never wear jeans. i was trying out balsa, but i didnt like the application. i also heard horse leather is a really good plain strop, so i'll be sure to pick some up if it becomes available at my local leather store.
method_burgerLol yeah, the infamous C12k...they were an eBay only thing back when I got mine
I do like horsehide strops. Have a Walking Horse brand one, and a couple i made. They have a very light draw, almost slick feeling. The only downside is that the leather is much thinner than cowhide. On a hanging strop, that means you have to watch out for cupping, on a paddle strop that's not an issue, of course. You have to oil them a little more often (neatsfoot oil, just a couple drops rubbed into your hand, then rub your palm over the strop for a bit), but not TOO often, or you will lose that smooth, light draw.
I have a few homemade that work well, but i haven't come close to finding any leather as good as my Tony Miller Old Timer steerhide with linen. (again, i use this plain, no pastes or sprays)
He's not cheap, but he has amazing materials and craftsmanship
I did some currency calculations and even with the shipping to the EU included (4,75 USD), it is cheaper to buy it on DROP than buying it within EU directly from Fallkniven, for european customers ;) And it is well within the limit for VAT exemptions on import.
Great touch up stone/backup travel stone. Mine came a while back of course. The fine white ceramic wasn't completely flat and had some subtle wrinkles in it. I've lapped it down and I'd say it was between the spyderco fine and ultra-fine stones. The white side is great for touching up blades, the brown side decent for rescuing a bad blade, but it would definitely take a while.
Just got mine in the mail today. Solid stone, with a wonderful carry case. However the small size of the stone mixed with the high grits makes it hard to see myself giving it to much use.
BigJDYou can certainly use this to sharpen almost any steel (I have this one) but I would not recommend this as a single- stone solution. I prefer diamond for sharpening difficult steels (I hate sharpening S30V, I’d rather sharpen M4 or CTS-XHP all day long) I use this as a touch-up stone in the field. It’s really too small for a main sharpening stone anyways. If you want similar stone that works for everything I’d recommend a DMT coarse/fine Dia-sharp stone. The 6 inch is ok, but an 8 inch is ideal if it’s your only stone.
From the description and grit chart: 0.1. Micron should be a grit higher than 100,000. Seriously ? What do sharpen with this? Your toilet paper? I already have the DC4 and so far I am somewhat disapp
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ointed by the ''sapphire'' side. From my experience the dark side is about 300-400ish grit. I bought a natural stone for a few dollars (13$)and it does a better job. The only thing is that I really like the pouch and the size of the DC4. Still, while going out doors I much prefer the natural stone ''if need be'', the DC4 leaves my knives with a worse edge than my Shapton glass 500.
Vizdrumhey, sup. A few years ago I bought one of the DC stones (the 3 I believe) and the dark part was very fine . A few months ago Ibought a 3 and a 4 and the grit are much, much coarser.
MoonStanOh ! I guess they changer the grit. That explains the differences in between reviews on the Internet. Thank you for sharing this piece of information!