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nellywhads
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Jul 17, 2019
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SaskAudioGuy
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Jul 17, 2019
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nellywhadsWell at 70 Euros a year for a Superstar subscription. I imagine a large chunk of cost is burned on software licensing even if it is on their own kit.
A fluffy review or three:
https://www.hifichoicemag.com/content/volumio-primo
https://theartofsound.net/forum/showthread.php?64133-Volumio-PRIMO-Audio-streamer-review
https://digiphonix.home.blog/2019/05/08/volumio-primo/ Some Q&A https://audiophilestyle.com/forums/topic/55974-primo-by-volumio/ Not for the product, actually I think it's a very expensive hardware and boils down to whether you'll use the software to get value. Use the software for 5 years, and it represents 350 euros in value type of thing. Edit: By straight conversion of the direct price puts it at $538 USD.
https://theartofsound.net/forum/showthread.php?64133-Volumio-PRIMO-Audio-streamer-review
https://digiphonix.home.blog/2019/05/08/volumio-primo/ Some Q&A https://audiophilestyle.com/forums/topic/55974-primo-by-volumio/ Not for the product, actually I think it's a very expensive hardware and boils down to whether you'll use the software to get value. Use the software for 5 years, and it represents 350 euros in value type of thing. Edit: By straight conversion of the direct price puts it at $538 USD.
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gyroscopics
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Jul 18, 2019
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nellywhads$500 ??? My DIY Volumio + D50 is cheaper and better than that. Including the Atom, my stack still costs less than that $500 Volumio Primo.
JJayJJ
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Jul 19, 2019
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nellywhadsWorst part about no measurements, is even the most basic of devices come with SOME form of specs in terms of performance. This doesn't even have much in the way of power usage or even a basic A-Weighted THD spec.. (I'd love for audiophiles to tell me to lick my finger, and test how much power is going through the thing by shocking myself, as any hint of calling for any sort of measurements is bewildering to them, and an offense almost).
How is audio still this sort of pre-historic Wild Wild West where there are no serious standards for industry practice for the consumer market? People constantly trying to buy professional interfaces, yet these same audiophiles are impartial to any measurement metrics.. *facerub*
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Performance: TLDR; TBD I see no measurements of the Primo's DAC online yet, as I imagine (and sincerely hope, at this price) that it is custom built and not a reconfigured clone of another implementation. Specs are also not included in the Details section. We can spend a good fortnight arguing about the relevence of measurements on audiophile listening experience. To avoid this derailing this topic later, let's say that measurements are a quantified method of assessing the basic performance characteristics of a DAC. Keeps everyone happy. Now, giving the designers and engineers the benefit of the doubt, let's assume that the lesser SBC (Asus TInker Board S) and older-chip-based DAC board on the Primo perform at par with the KHADAS setup described above. We are left with a wonderful equation: Same functionality + Build cost (without case) + Same (imaginatively assumed) performance = ~$200 USD Simplifying this, we see that: Plastic case cost (and pretty much nothing else) = ~$300 USD I cannot express my concern any more clearly. Pre-emption for the nay-sayers: TLDR; If you're looking at this section, a tldr isn't going to help. Volumio Primo: https://volumio.org/product/volumio-primo/ Volumio OS: https://volumio.org/get-started/ MyVolumio subscription: https://volumio.org/my-volumio-overview/ KHADAS VIM3 (Pre-order): https://www.khadas.com/vim KHADAS Tone Board: https://www.khadas.com/tone KHADAS Tone Board Measurements: https://www.audiosciencereview.com/forum/index.php?threads/review-and-measurements-of-wesiontek-khadas-tone-board-dac.4823/ Here are some potatoes for making it to the end of this long, winding post: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=potato&s=g&t=i Edit: Fixed the equation. Edit 2: Added Primo product link.