richfiles
275
Sep 17, 2015
the F and J keys... Do those keys have the tiny bump in the middle, or do they have the circular divot/pit/hole in them, whatever you wanna call it when the key has the opposite of a tiny little bump? :P
So... I like my keyboards with a curve. This would also be my FIRST custom keyset. Prior to this, I was planning to wire a diode matrix to the back of an Apple //c Keyboard (Alps Amber) and run that to a Teensy. It's a flat keyboard. I might still actually use it. Maybe I should give it a battery and bluetooth and make it wireless. Just needs a touchpad or some such device. Leave these rockin' keycaps for my Kerbal Space Program console, plus an external number pad. (SO sick of dinky keyboards for regular use)! Controller won't go anywhere either, as it'll be built right into the desk... Gauges, readouts, 3 axis FDAI, toggles, joysticks, and all! :P
Just HOW difficult is it to get the curve/stepped feel from this row 3 keycap. I've considered two ideas. One, I use soldered pin headers as standoffs to mount pc board strips (one long horizontal strip per row) raised and angled off a main backing PCB to create my curve. The other idea is to try to find a curved metal keyplate. That or I could just buy a mechanical keyboard that has the right shape, if I can find one that fits. What would be best? Like I said, I've only ever resused entire keyboards from vintage computers, or made minor cosmetic mods to OEM keyboards.
The last keyboard I genuinely liked the shape of was the Apple A1048 with the clear plastic shell removed. This left a very thin, almost floating keyboard. Only needed to add a pair of rubber pads to it. It had a mild curve, mild angle, no steps, very mild spherical key tops, but it was not the greatest in terms of durability. I've been through two, and I actually have a second keyboard plugged in right now, cause my - [ ' and SPACE keys are dead. Still fairly usable for regular typing... as long as you don't need to hyphenate or quote or separateyourwordslikemostnormalpeopledo... Or make this face... >_> or this one <_<
I am seriously considering at least one base kit, a number pad, and the wingman set. Two full core sets is simply too much for me to handle, sadly... I'm considering a stand alone number pad. I HATE not having a number pad. Not having one is torture for anyone who does numbery things! :P
Yeah... I priced two core kits, but dang, that adds up.
Data
2003
Data
Sep 17, 2015
The word I think you're looking for is "scoops". This set doesn't have scoops. Danger Zone has homing bumps, because they're more dangerous (naturally). Seriously though, nobody spoke up about homing keys in the (months long) interest check, so since I like bumps we're getting bumps. And yes, they're in the center of the cap in the SA profile, if I recall correctly. If you don't like bumps, the smooth non-homing F & J keys are available in the Base Kit.
I can't really answer your question about achieving a sculpted profile from a uniform Row 3 key set. From the little bit of discussion I've seen on the topic, most people appear to lean toward a curved switch plate -- there are vintage boards out there already that do this, most of them are buckling spring. If you went that route you would either need to hand wire your matrix or you'd have to get fancy with the PCB.
Agreed on the number pad. I can't function without one. Don't force yourself to overspend. We can always run this again later if it's successful, and you can pick-up anything you may have missed the first time around. ;)
richfiles
275
Sep 18, 2015
Overspend on keyboards... >_> Don't be silly! <_<
I've cheaped out on keyboards for so long, I doubt I could overspend if I tried! (I could) :P
Since these are double shot... And an extra F and J come with the base kit... What if I put a key cap on the mill and just sorta... cut in, just a hair. Polish up the cut with a little polishing compound... That could work, right? As long as I don't go deep enough to run into the underlying double shot plastic, that'd probably get me a set of scoop keys, right?
Also... Has anyone noticed the image at the top of the page (render?) and the Kit images show a different typeface for the alpha keys? Should i assume the kit images are the correct ones, or the image at the top of the page?
Also... Google U scary... Stop suddenly playing Air Force ads to me on YouTube...
Data
2003
Data
Sep 18, 2015
Damn, you ARE a Maverick. :D As far as shaping them... the caps are thick but I don't know that they're THAT thick. It might be an interesting experiment, but I certainly wouldn't try it on my keys!
The fonts aren't perfect in either case. They are both VERY close but I'd say as far as glyph shape, my 2D Illustrator renders are as close as possible to the real deal. The actual legends will be a little bit wider in the horizontal plane and some of the special characters will be different. If you need a reference, look at the legends from any recent SA group buy. Nuclear Data Green and 1976 are perfect examples because they are both uniform Row 3. Note: look at actual photographs of the keys, not pre-release renders.
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