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With a crisp and responsive tactile bump at the top and a cushy feeling when bottoming out, the Everglide Oreo mechanical switches are a joy to type on. Rated for 50 million presses, Oreos have a smokey housing and clear stems for a sweet two-toned look Read More
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These switches are well worth the price if you're willing to put a bit of time into filming them. Like T1s, and presumably other switches from durock or everglide, the top housing is a bit loose and it makes them sound very rattly and kind of unpleasant in stock form. They benefit a lot from switch films. I've still yet to try a full board of them but assembling some in a switch tester (lubed with 205g00, springs bag lubed with TX oil), sound is much improved, though nothing to write home about. They still have a very slight metallic twang to them that I assume must be some sort of reverb from the leaf, as it sounds very different from spring ping and can only be heard at the peak of the bump. This makes them slightly higher pitched than you'd expect, but it's not a bad sound.
As I stated elsewhere, there is a very light coating of clear oil on the stems, and some of the legs had small droplets of it that I wiped off when lubing (as I feared it might compromise tactility, though I didn't actually test this). It's nothing like the drop HP gunky factory lube job, and can largely be ignored if you're doing your own lube job.
In terms of general comments on the switch feel, the tactility is great. It's right at the top, crisp yet still rounded. Basically identical to T1s in that regard, though the sliders are slightly different so evidently they're not direct copies. Despite the size of the bump, and the spring weight being on the lighter side, the springs are slightly cushy/progressive, making it fairly easy to actuate them without bottoming out. For people who care about wobble, there's a bit less than average. I also want to note that keycap fit is totally fine, if anything it's on the snug side.
Overall they seem like a great switch, especially for the price, but probably not the best for people who keep their switches stock, unless you're not really fussed on sound.
I think what makes this switch so good isn't even necessarily the switch, it's also the price. The switch looks and sounds awesome with a very satisfying typing feel. The tactile bump is straight to the point with hardly any pre-travel before the bump. The bump is very pronounced and after filming and lubing the switch, it literally turns into a monster of a switch. This is definitely a switch that you need to own, especially for the price it's asking
These are one of my favorite tactile switches. I spring swapped with Krytox GPL105 lubed 62g SPRIT springs, filmed with Kebo switch film, and lubed with Krytox GPL203g0 for an ultra smooth, perfectly tactile, satisfying and not obnoxiously loud typing sound. Even with the added cost of the SPRIT springs, these switches are a great value and fine alternative to Zealios or Holy Pandas.
holy pandas compared to these are linear. oreos sound much much better and have a very snappy and pleasant bump. there's also no need for filming these, but i'd like them to be a tad more smooth (since they come prelubed)
Final edit: I attempted to disassemble and lightly lube and film these, and found the two different stems are incompatible with the different top housings, and they are also so lightweight and tactile that they can barely handle any lube before they start getting "stuck" or sluggish in response. If you're going to lube these, they need stiffer springs. But because of the inconsistent molds, this was a huge pain and I had to prevent the stems and top housings from mixing. I'm taking a star off for this and would definitely advise you to avoid these switches. They're only use is if you're upgrading from mx brown and don't want to do any modding... But imo the cherry housing is better than this.
EDIT: I just disassembled a few more of my Oreo's and noticed I'm getting two different styles of stems in them (these are from the same lot of 110 switches from drop). Some have the chamfered legs, some have squared legs (like the CV's I discuss below). I can't discern a difference in the feel between them, but I'm going to take an extra star off the review for inconsistency here:
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Also worth noting, these are pretty well lubed with a light oil from the factory.
-- original review --
These are basically the exact same thing as an Everglide Crystal Violet, except the springs are slightly heavier (still very light) and the stems are actually slightly different. The center post is slightly wider (by about .003") and the side rails have a chamfer at the bottom (much like a halo stem does).
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I noticed that ... like most JWK's... these are not particularly great stock switches. Maybe better than Cherry MX browns at least. If you're going to run a JWK stock switch, the king is still the T1 with the 67g stock spring in my opinion. These lighter variations are just simply too tactile to be running on such light springs - although these aren't quite as bad as the crystal violets in that regard (which have VERY light stock springs). They feel very "sluggish" on the return stroke which makes it hard to type fast on them.
That said... like most JWK's... it does make for a great modded switch. I find the Crystal Violets are slightly better in this regard, I've compared the Oreo vs. Crystal Violet with 74g springs and lube/films and the crystal violets feel ever so slightly better with less resistance on the return stroke. The bump looks the same on both so it might just be down to sample size... though they are certainly different molds so it could be a physical difference.
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In conclusion, it's a fine switch, but certainly nothing special unless you mod the crap out of it. It's somewhere between the crystal violet and the T1, which puts it in kind of a bad spot for me, because the CV's were way cheaper and the T1's are better stock. I really have no reason to recommend this switch unless you can get it under $.50/switch.
TL;DR: Test all switches in place before soldering especially after lubricating and filming them, and / or swap for heavier springs. These are fantastic switches aside from a few of the switches having return issues.
The feel of these switches when lubed and filmed is absolutely incredible for the price. Out-of-the-box, they're really nice but have a slightly scratchy feel on the downstroke. However, of the 50 switches I lubed and filmed, I noticed about 8 of the switches experiencing issues with return after reassembly and placement. This issue may or may not have existed pre-lubrication - I notice now from another review that these were apparently factory lubricated with something, which in combination with my Tribosys 3203 may have caused issues?). For most the issue was return - the stem simply didn't have enough spring force to return after actuation when placed in the actual board despite there being no such issue when the switch was freestanding. When I investigated, applying a slight amount of pressure to the side of the casing would produce just enough friction to prevent the stem from returning properly. As my case is 3D printed with tight tolerances, this resulted in many of the switches being unusable until I trial-and-errored the right switches in the right places. I'm just grateful it's a hot swap.
Installed these switches on my Keychron K6 hotswap model (replacing stock Cherry MX Blue) and they're great. The tactile bump is nice and the typing experience on them is so much better than the blues! I installed them as is and still sounds great regardless, although at some point I may consider lubing and filming them.
I have a few keys that stick occasionally since the switch (most notable the R Shift, Enter and Backspace) and had one switch that was slightly defective but it doesn't detract from the overall sound and experience.
Looks - This switch looks great. A smoke/white color scheme will match nearly any keyboard (even if you can't necessarily see the switch.
Feel - Out of the box, the feeling is already great. It has fairly strong tactility and does not produce any tactile or acoustic scratchiness that I would consider unacceptable.
Acoustics - There appears to be a hollow sound produced from particularly strong upstrokes indicating a somewhat loose house fit. This hollowness is mitigated by lubricating the switch with a moderately thick lubricant (Tribosys 3204 or Krytox 205g0) or using a very light lubricant and applying a film.
Shipping - The switches came in a zip seal bag inside of a bubble envelope which which provided adequate protection. However, it should be noted that the contact legs are made of thin copper and can bend in shipping. This can be undone with a pair of tweezers.
Other [1] - There is a small amount of lubricant applied to the base of the spring/lower housing. The lubricant type is unknown but this should be considered if lubricating the spring.
Other [2] - I purchased a non-first-run of the product and have not experienced any looseness in keycap retention that others have. Users should expect to have full confidence in switches holding keycaps.
ChinspikeI can also second the need for switch films with these types of switches. They benefit greatly from them and I’d even go so far as to say stay away unless you’re going to film them.
I love the feel of these switches and the big bump. It's a nice strong bump that's more or less impossible to ignore, which is very nice for MX tactiles. It's also not as completely aggressive as other, long-pole short travel tactiles, so you can stop yourself after the bump and avoid a harsh bottom out. The spring is on the lighter side, which makes the bump more pronounced and
Unfortunately there's a lot of spring ping stock, and a lot of leaf ping due to the aggressive angle of the leaf. While the factory lube does work quite well at smoothing out the switch, it doesn't do much for these sounds. If you're planning on using these switches for an extended period of time, I'd strongly recommending hand-lubing these. You can put a bit of grease behind the leaf (inside the bend at the top) and it'll help a lot with quieting down the board and avoiding those annoying squeaks. Of course, using grease on the stem and housing will help the sound as well. I found the top housings to be quite tight, so you might not be able to fit films in there.
For the price, these are very nice switches, but they really need modding to shine.