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Featuring the same design, but now produced with an updated mold and tooling, the stock Invyr Panda switches make their long-awaited return. Featuring ivory colored housings with black, factory-lubed linear stems, these switches are super satisfying Read More
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There seems to be a lot of misinformation regarding what is a "Holy Panda", what materials it's made from, and the whole issue with pre-lubing. If you're angry about the "pre-lubing" on the switches, please read the original GB page on GH, c. 2016.These are Invyr panda switches. These aren't Holy Pandas. You can make your own holy pandas by adding the option to include halo true switches, and taking them apart to put the halo stem inside the panda housing.
The original pandas were somewhat substandard for a linear, even attested to by Quakemz, the original guy who invented the holy panda:
"The lubing was incomplete and inconsistent, the switch was not very smooth at all, and there was even a very mild and awkward bump at the bottom of the press; very awkward for a switch costing $0.64-$1 USD/each, depending on quantity and vendor. This was all during a time when Gateron was really shining in value, Kailh hadn’t yet revamped their factory, and the market didn’t have retooled Cherry MX Blacks or Tealios, etc."They come with some lube since the whole point of the Invyr panda was a linear switch that came prelubed and didn't need further tuning. Obviously, they somewhat failed at their original purpose, and the real breakthrough was when Quakemz put a halo true stem in the panda housing, creating the holy panda. Even with YOK/GSUS pandas, they come prelubed, but that doesn't matter, since you're gonna be pulling the panda stem out and swapping it with a halo stem anyway.
Novelkeys YOK pandas are about $0.55 per switch. If I buy 70 pandas from NK, that's $38.5. Factoring shipping, which is around $8.50 for me, that's about $47 for pandas alone. The upside of this is that NK pandas are already in-stock, which means that you don't have to wait. On Drop, these pandas are roughly $0.57 per switch, and including $2.75 shipping, that's $42.75. There's not really a huge difference in terms of pricing, so if you want Invyr pandas, or maybe don't like the colors of the NK YOK pandas in stock, or are patient, then maybe these are for you. Regardless, you're gonna have to buy halo switches from Drop (unless you have some laying around/from mechmarket).
EDIT, FURTHER CLARIFICATION:Due to the confusion on what exactly is a panda switch: The original GB for Invyr pandas on geekhack used POM as their material of choice. These switches are as close as you can get to the original "OG" Panda, which was a Halo True stem in an Invyr housing. The confusion arises from the fact that the Massdrop Holy Pandas sold last year (the ones that came prelubed) had a polycarbonate top and nylon bottom.The original Invyr Pandas did use a non-transparent polycarbonate top housing, and a nylon blend bottom. (Source from Mech27, Source on bottom)
Hi guys,
I'm excited to say that I've been working closely with the original manufacturer for the OG INVYR Pandas. We've been talking about bringing back Pandas for a while now, given the popularity of Holy pandas in the community for the past year. One big complaint we had with our offering back in December was the criticism of the factory lube. Since the original Pandas were created with the basis of creating the smoothest linear, lube was applied on the stem as part of the process of manufacturing the switch.
The manufacturer initially offered to re-release Holy Pandas in another run (that is, Halo stems inside INVYR Panda housings), given the success of it back last December. However, given a few factors such as - the fulfillment time behind opening each Panda switch and replacing with a Halo stem, as well as lubing the stem (yikes!), were stuff that I wanted to avoid.
As a huge fan of Holy Pandas myself, I figured the best compromise would be to offer the 2 switches together in one drop and allow the community to assemble the switches themselves. Most of us enjoy spending time tinkering with franken-switching, lubing, or spring swapping so why not stem swap? Plus, you are able to control what and how much lube you want to apply to the Halo stem yourself.
Regarding the updated changes to the INVR Panda linear switch, I understand many will voice their opinion on why we're offering it, or how much different they are compared to the OG run. The manufacturer has told me that the tooling and molds initially used in the December run of Holy Pandas were exhausted due to sheer amount of volume that they didn't expect. The life of these molds were old and far past repair so as a new set was created to produce these new "revised" INVYR pandas, which offer the same design and similar material. They were also tested with stem swapping with Halos and are indeed as tactile as other offering of Pandas and clones.
Enjoy :)
Retooled pandas are a disappointment. Tried these stock as a linear when I received them and they literally feel like tactile switches due to the burs in the slider rail acting as a bump. I then popped halo stems into them to make holy pandas and immediately noticed that when I fully depress them they arent straight. They sit angled when you press them all the way.. can anyone see if theirs is like this as well? I made 3 and they were all like this
mine just delivered today and, guess what, the prelube is not as horrible as the last time, and it did not affect to the spring and the housing, ez to replace the halo true stem without cleaning, thanks Drop for listening us this time
My order was delivered and is incorrect. I ordered both 90 of the Pandas and 90 of the Halo switches as confirmed on the packing slip, but I only received the Halo True switches, half the order. Who do I contact about this?