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May 23, 2019
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How do these compare to the sennheiser hd momentum Bluetooth cans? I only use my iPhone to listen, no amps or anything else.
May 23, 2019
erickong
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May 27, 2019
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I own the original Sennheiser Momentum on-ears and the HD58X. The HD58X will still sound good through a phone. They just won't hit peak performance. After listening to other headphones, the sound from the momentum drivers is absolutely awful.
May 27, 2019
Evshrug
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May 27, 2019
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Technically, your iPhone has an amp and DAC built-in, or the $9 lightning-to-3.5mm dongle would have a DAC/amp if that’s what you’re using. I don’t agree with Erickong’s black and white assessment. Either headphone would suit you better in different situations. I have a Wireless Momentum 2 (used to be called HD-1). It faces engineering challenges because it is closed-back, has some light ANC (Active Noise Cancelling), and has to hold a Bluetooth receiver, battery, computer, DAC, and Amp inside its earcups while staying comfortably lightweight (all closed Bluetooth headphones have these pieces too, though not all have ANC). I do wish it supported the AAC codec for better sound quality with iPhones, but I think the DAC and amp inside the Momentum is better than the one in an iPhone (it sounds GREAT if your source supports aptX). Compared to other closed, ANC, Bluetooth headphones, I think the Momentum is actually one of the best sounding. Compare to Beats Solo 2 (haven’t heard the 3rd gen yet), Bose QC35, Beyerdynamic’s closed bt headphone, even the Sony WH1000XM2, I think the Momentum sounds the clearest and most detailed. Compared to the HD 58X, it is a lot more complicated and you have to take more factors into account. The HD 58X is a large, open-backed, mildly harder to drive headphone. At home, no question the HD 58X is capable of higher resolution and a more natural sound, and its easy to “upgrade it” or reveal more of its potential by using higher quality music files, DACs, amps, etc. However, walking outside with birds, cars, people coughing and talking, or inside public transit, the Momentum blocks some of that distracting environmental sound and allows you to hear your audio with better clarity and focus. The Momentum is also going to be with you more often with it being small enough to wear around your neck or fold up into a bag, and you will be less worried about dust and moisture. Overall, the Momentum 2 will be more useful wherever you are, but at home the HD58X will be very impressive and your winner.
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May 27, 2019
PeteMtl
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Jun 10, 2019
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I have a couple of home headphone amps and a Dragonfly Red that I use with most of my headphones. In the case of my HD58x, I very often don’t even take the time and trouble to carry the Dragonfly Red with my Iphone or Ipad Pro. I must admit that I use very often the Apple lightning dongle alone (which carries a miniature cirrus logic DAC and Op Amp on a lightning to 3.5mm headphone input soccket). And it sounds just amazing with that 9$ « dac/amp » setup with my iPhone X or iPad Pro. I know, it’s not impressive in audiophile standards, but it sound great to me. The HD58x is an incredible high quality budget audiophile headphone, and it doesn’t need that much power to perform well. The 9$ Apple dongle is surprisingly good and clean sounding and provides enough power for my portable needs with the HD58x. So if on a budget, that’s the only dac/amp you really need with the HD58x in portable mode. Just my 2 cents of opinion...
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Jun 10, 2019
PeteMtl
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Jun 10, 2019
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Comparing the HD58x to the Momentum Wireless over ear (HD1) is as useful as comparing my Mercedes Benz C300 to a Ford F150 pick up truck. Different headphones for different needs. If you need a closed back, bluetooth wireless and noise cancelling headphone, you will have trouble finding a better sounding headphone than the Momentum Wireless over ear. I tried the Bose QC35, I own the Sennheiser PXC550 (which are very useful for what they provide) and the new comparable Sony ANC headphones and I truly believe that the Momentums are the best sounding of the Bunch. If you need ANC, Bluetooth, closed back features, this is it! But if you are looking for better sounding headphones without these features, you will be better served with the smoother and airier open backed headphones such as the HD58x, HD650/6xx or HD600. By the way, I own most of the discussed headphones (except the Bose and Sony), when I emit my opinion, I do it in good personal knowledge and experience.
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Jun 10, 2019
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