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Mar 11, 2017
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Friends, I believe this is the correct style LED.
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Notice the RGB emitters face "down" (relative) toward the PCB. This is the correct orientation to fire "up" through the switch. I've only found them at one company so far. I need to confirm if this is the correct pin-out for these boards but this gives us a good baseline to look for better options.
Manufacturer's site: http://www.brightekeurope.com/productcart/pc/viewCategories.asp?idCategory=2039
PDF Spec Sheet: http://www.brightekeurope.com/productcart/pc/catalog/N0M25S71.pdf
These are 3228 PLCC4 package SMD emitters. Manufacturer calls them "top view" -- I was told to look for "reverse" but this seems to fit the bill IF it's the correct pin orientation. It's hard to say without having the PCB in my hands. I'll keep looking.
Props to Xi Kuang @ Massdrop for the lead, and Yanbo for passing it on. <3
Mar 11, 2017
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Mar 11, 2017
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DataUpdate: These might also work.
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They're the correct orientation, 3228 PLCC4.
Web site: http://www.sunledusa.com/SearchResult.asp?Series=XZxxxxxx45S-9&SubCategoryDescription=Multi-Color%20SMD%20LEDs
Spec Sheet: http://www.sunledusa.com/products/spec/XZMDKCBDDG45S-9.pdf
These might be a little easier to get. I can't find a source for the Brightek.
Mar 11, 2017
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Mar 11, 2017
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DataSource for the SunLED is Digikey. P/N 1497-1257-1-ND
https://www.digikey.com/products/en?keywords=1497-1257-1-ND
Edit: Don't buy anything yet. I suspect this one doesn't have the correct pinout. 2nd Edit: Scratch that. These are the right part.
Mar 11, 2017
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Mar 13, 2017
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DataWell I'm still a little fuzzy on how PWM works with a common anode RGB emitter but I'm 85% confident this SunLED will work with these boards. The markings on the PCB are a little confusing. It would be nice if I could get someone to confirm the large trace is the positive leg. Not sure how I'll get that info.
Mar 13, 2017
fluxrez
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Mar 14, 2017
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DataNice find. Now if only we could buy some...
Mar 14, 2017
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Mar 14, 2017
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fluxrezYou mean the LEDs? My 3rd post has the link, not sure if I can make it any easier. :)
Buy at your own risk, though. None of this has been validated on a production PCB. It's possible that people who participated in an earlier drop (not me) could get some of these LEDs and try them on their boards. That would be the best confirmation we can get. Short of that, I'm hoping someone from Vortex can tell us if we've got the right part.
Mar 14, 2017
fluxrez
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Mar 14, 2017
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DataNo. The first led you posted. Not the 2nd. Manufacturers website doesn't sell them. I was an earlier drop. I have this board already.
Mar 14, 2017
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Mar 14, 2017
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fluxrezAfraid I can't help you there. I checked the recommended list of distributors and none of them seem to carry that part, or simply don't sell to the public. I have to assume it's not available, which led me to the second option. Any reason that one couldn't conceivably work for you? The SunLED part I mean.
Mar 14, 2017
MagicSmoke
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Mar 15, 2017
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DataNice find! I'm trying the US distributor to see if they have samples available.
Mar 15, 2017
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Mar 15, 2017
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MagicSmokeCool. Let us know if you're successful. I have an order on the way from DigiKey but I won't have a PCB to test them on until this current drop ships.
Mar 15, 2017
MagicSmoke
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Mar 15, 2017
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DataI at least have a contact at the distributor. If I get an hour free at home I'll take apart a Shine 5 and test the pinout.
Mar 15, 2017
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Mar 15, 2017
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MagicSmokeOK, these things are small. Wow...
Can anyone measure the diameter of the hole in the PCB that was cut/drilled for LEDs? I need a reference.
Mar 15, 2017
MagicSmoke
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Mar 20, 2017
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DataI finally had a chance to take apart the Shine 5. The LED used with the S5 can not be the same one used in the RGB keyboards with just one PCB. The S5 uses a non-reverse gull wing with its two PCB arrangement. The image attached shows the LED shining up. it is a 3.2 x 2.8 package.
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Mar 20, 2017
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Mar 20, 2017
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MagicSmokeNice photo. Thanks for checking. Can you tell if the wider trace (I call it the fat one) on the PCB is going to the common anode on the LED? The + under D23A seems to indicate that it is, but it would be swell if you can confirm.
Mar 20, 2017
boostdemon
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Mar 29, 2017
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DataHas anyone purchased and confirmed these are the solution?
Mar 29, 2017
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Mar 29, 2017
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boostdemonI have LEDs but no board to put them on (yet). I suspect that the ones I bought are too small, but I have no way to confirm. Mine are the SunLED from Digikey. @MagicSmoke is attempting to source some of the first model I posted. If anyone else is trying they haven't mentioned it.
Mar 29, 2017
OfTheWild
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Mar 29, 2017
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DataI ordered the ones from ebay... we'll see when they get here. I will post up exact measurements of the LED pads on the board when i get home.
Mar 29, 2017
boostdemon
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Mar 29, 2017
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OfTheWildHere you go,
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its a 2mm by 6mm on center.
Mar 29, 2017
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Mar 29, 2017
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boostdemonThanks. Maybe this will work after all. My LEDs are 5.2mm long so they ought to fit.
Mar 29, 2017
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Apr 20, 2017
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DataReceived my order today and it looks like we're good to go. These LEDs fit... barely. I'll solder one up this weekend and see if they work.
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Apr 20, 2017
boostdemon
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Apr 21, 2017
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DataThe ones i grabbed off ebay were too small but if you pried open the tabs it fits... unfortunately it didn't light up in any orientation I tried. Did you get those ones from brightekeurope?
Apr 21, 2017
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Apr 21, 2017
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boostdemonMine are from Digikey. I couldn't locate any of the Brightek product. @MagicSmoke was trying to source them from a US distributor.
Apr 21, 2017
MagicSmoke
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Apr 21, 2017
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DataI have a few of the Brightek ones and intend to try them out in a few hours now that I have the PCB.
Apr 21, 2017
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Apr 23, 2017
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DataWell all of my hunches were correct. Here's the final product.
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Full album here: http://imgur.com/a/AnZ1c
If anyone is interested in the full process let me know and I'll make a post in the Talk section.
Apr 23, 2017
Jedi
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Apr 23, 2017
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DataI think it would be a great idea. If you have the time, please share! Thanks man
Apr 23, 2017
ihalatch
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Apr 24, 2017
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Datalink to the SMD RGB LEDs please?
Apr 24, 2017
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Apr 24, 2017
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ihalatchAlready posted it. Scroll up near the top.
Apr 24, 2017
boostdemon
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Apr 25, 2017
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DataNice. I ordered 25count from digikey. I have a pad to replace/repair on the PCB where my failed attempt lifted it straight off the pcb. oops.
Apr 25, 2017
fluxrez
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Apr 25, 2017
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DataThanks Data. Order placed. You've made this really easy for us.
Apr 25, 2017
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Apr 25, 2017
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fluxrezNo problem. Good luck with your build!
Apr 25, 2017
fluxrez
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Apr 28, 2017
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DataOh Wow Data. these are tiny. Does the darkened corner mark the positive lead?
Apr 28, 2017
boostdemon
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Apr 28, 2017
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fluxrezI believe that is standard... the dark dot is on the + quadrant. The other 3 should be the - for each color.
Apr 28, 2017
fluxrez
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Apr 28, 2017
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DataHey thanks DATA, works great. A littler dimmer than I was expected, but still pretty great. I had lots of issues determining what direction they were supposed to go. In the end I just copied you.
*EDIT - nevermind, there is a brightness adjustment =D
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Apr 28, 2017
boostdemon
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Apr 28, 2017
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fluxrezSo this works with the "dot" at the bottom left position? I still get no light.
Apr 28, 2017
fluxrez
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Apr 28, 2017
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boostdemonyeah, that worked for me. Match it up with the photos on Data's imgur
Apr 28, 2017
boostdemon
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Apr 28, 2017
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fluxrezYup, that did the trick. That means the board is printed incorrectly. lol Anyway for anyone else doing this... the notch or dot goes bottom left. Initially only numlock is on... to turn on the LEDs and cycle through the modes you need to hold the top left button (function i guess) and hit 1 to cycle through on, breathe, raindrop, disco modes... and then you can do 2 and 8 which seems like brightness settings... and 3 which does a some forms of splash. Anyways, pretty cool! I really wish the leds were included or at least offered with the PCB we paid extra for though. https://www.instagram.com/p/BTa09GRF8ln/?taken-by=iamofthewild
Apr 28, 2017
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Apr 28, 2017
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boostdemonYes, the silkscreen is wrong. I covered this in my guide over in the Talk section. :)
Apr 28, 2017
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May 11, 2017
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DataAppreciate all of the research and info. This is great.
I'm curious why it is necessary to source one's own LEDs, as the kit optionally includes 30 RGB LEDs. Is something wrong with the LEDs available from Massdrop?
May 11, 2017
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May 12, 2017
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emojiHeh, I didn't even realize MD had started a new drop for this. The RGB LEDs weren't an option on previous drops -- there were two prior drops that I'm aware of. So we had to do a bit of leg work. Definitely take advantage of that option if you're the least bit interested as Massdrop is offering the LEDs for a killer add-on price. And good luck with your build!
May 12, 2017
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May 13, 2017
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DataAh okay, I see. Sounds like the research you did has in turn helped Massdrop with future drops. Still trying to decide if I really need another numpad but I'll definitely get the LEDs if I join. Thanks!
May 13, 2017
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