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kunalkumar
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Apr 13, 2015
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gunbit
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Apr 13, 2015
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kunalkumarAny chance they could provide pbt keycaps? white atleast
Wheels
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Apr 14, 2015
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kunalkumarThat other brand you mentioned I'm assuming is Gateron, since you've recently ran two drops for their switches and have since included them as options for the other custom boards here (ErgoDox, Infinity, Yoda).
What about us who have already bought these Gateron switches from you?
What about us who have already bought expensive keysets from you?
We want options added for naked keyboards -- no switches, no keycaps -- À la carte.
Of course this isn't possible with mass manufactured big keyboard companies. MKC is not a big company and these keyboards are not just being pulled off an assembly line. This is as you say a special made-to-order run for Massdrop. As of now it seems like a custom keyboard, without all the customization.
What about us who have already bought these Gateron switches from you?
What about us who have already bought expensive keysets from you?
We want options added for naked keyboards -- no switches, no keycaps -- À la carte.
Of course this isn't possible with mass manufactured big keyboard companies. MKC is not a big company and these keyboards are not just being pulled off an assembly line. This is as you say a special made-to-order run for Massdrop. As of now it seems like a custom keyboard, without all the customization.
Makami
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Apr 14, 2015
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WheelsI'm quiet unhappy about the options of different switches too, but i don't think your wish might be granted for several reasons.
Behind every drop there is a calculation of the price, lets asume 100% margin. Will be more or less on different parts/components.
This is calculated 200$ as a package. You don't want switches, lets say 40$, MKC only has to pay 20$ for them. They just lost 20$ income. You don't want keycaps, lets say 20$, MKC only has to pay 10$ for them. They just lost 10$ income. The next one will demand no leds, 10$ less, MKC only has to pay 3$ for them, another loss. What about labour, i mean they dont have to solder and assemble, this must be worth another 20$.
Even if all this would happen, the next one will step up, fuck 110$ for a case and a lousy pcb, not even a phantom board, rip off and so on and on. The whole calculation would fall apart, and there will always be people being unhappy/angry for given options.
If you've bought your Gateron switches and expensive keysets and springs .... from other drops/merchants with the intention to be entitled to ask another company to fulfill your wishes to their loss, than you're a fool in my eyes.
Now you're invited to be the next one to call me a smart ass or biased or whatever. I see it as a more realistic point of view, and there has to be a healthy balance of customers demands/wishes and companys needs to survive.
Just my two cents, which i didn't even wanted to write, but this was bothering me the whole morning.
Behind every drop there is a calculation of the price, lets asume 100% margin. Will be more or less on different parts/components.
This is calculated 200$ as a package. You don't want switches, lets say 40$, MKC only has to pay 20$ for them. They just lost 20$ income. You don't want keycaps, lets say 20$, MKC only has to pay 10$ for them. They just lost 10$ income. The next one will demand no leds, 10$ less, MKC only has to pay 3$ for them, another loss. What about labour, i mean they dont have to solder and assemble, this must be worth another 20$.
Even if all this would happen, the next one will step up, fuck 110$ for a case and a lousy pcb, not even a phantom board, rip off and so on and on. The whole calculation would fall apart, and there will always be people being unhappy/angry for given options.
If you've bought your Gateron switches and expensive keysets and springs .... from other drops/merchants with the intention to be entitled to ask another company to fulfill your wishes to their loss, than you're a fool in my eyes.
Now you're invited to be the next one to call me a smart ass or biased or whatever. I see it as a more realistic point of view, and there has to be a healthy balance of customers demands/wishes and companys needs to survive.
Just my two cents, which i didn't even wanted to write, but this was bothering me the whole morning.
theimmc
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Apr 14, 2015
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KoehlOut of curiosity, do you mean $200 as in "expensive keyboard" or "low priced keyboard"?
If you mean "expensive keyboard", then I'd argue that if people thing that they already paid a lot for a keyboard, they expect it to come with good keycaps that they don't need to immediately replace.
If you mean "expensive keyboard", then I'd argue that if people thing that they already paid a lot for a keyboard, they expect it to come with good keycaps that they don't need to immediately replace.
Ophidian
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Apr 14, 2015
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MakamiI'd be happy to pay $150 for this without switches or caps :P
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A quick update. We've been talking to MKC about adding more switch options (Brown and Clear) for this drop. Right now it'll not be possible to add Cherry MX Brown or Clear switches to this drop because of the switch scarcity.
We are, however, looking into Brown and Clear switch options from brands other than Cherry that we could provide MKC to get more switch options up for the community.
We'll post an update soon with more news.