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Free yourself from the mess of cables with the NuForce BE Free8: a pair of wireless IEMs with a level of sound clarity rarely found in the category. Along with a Bluetooth wireless range of 33 feet, these IEMs feature AAC and aptX LL technology for high-fidelity audio from all your devices Read More
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keyboard_arrow_downDandre3000
37
Mar 30, 2018
Are these bluetooth 5.0?
Putting just "bluetooth" in the description is super annoying. Not buying wireless IEM's that aren't 5.0
Putting just "bluetooth" in the description is super annoying. Not buying wireless IEM's that aren't 5.0
Dandre3000
37
Apr 5, 2018
They aren't the only ones just one of few. For example: https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/touch-ultra-small-wireless-bluetooth-5-0-earbuds-headphones#/
But also, I swear I've seen a pair floating around Massdrop but maybe I'm imagining that. Still 5.0 is supposed to be extremely reliable a-la Apple's W1 chip.
But also, I swear I've seen a pair floating around Massdrop but maybe I'm imagining that. Still 5.0 is supposed to be extremely reliable a-la Apple's W1 chip.
marckbruno
38
Apr 26, 2018
Dandre3000No they are not, I own a pair and I have to honestly say that I would not buy if I were you. Tried to like them, but too many issues with connecting, and fit/ comfort. Now it’s doesnt want to connect at all and all it does is constantly reset on the main earbud.
tinyman392
267
Dec 5, 2017
Received my pair today. Ergonomics are great, so is the fit, though there is quite a bit of driver flex for me. The sound is on the boomy side with an overall balanced signature. But let's step aside from that and go to the UI portion of the device.
You control the headphones using the two poorly placed buttons on the earbuds which can be quite difficult to press while using them, but the physical control is nice though quite limited. You have single and double clicks to control your music (play/pause and next track, respectively). However, going to the previous track isn't possible. You can hold the button to initiate Siri as well. Let's talk about the control on the right side for a second, you get a button that can turn it on and off, but that's it. You can't press it to do any control on the earbuds which is quite depressing.
When you remove the right one from your ear, it stops playing, your left cuts out momentarily and continues doing its thing. When you put it back in you get stereo sound once more. The right bud actually shuts off when you take it off. When you take out the left bud, the right goes silent. This probably is due to the way they are coupled. It's similar to the auto-pause that the AirPods come with, but not quite. It's a nice touch.
When you remove them from the case, they should turn on automatically. Well, if I'm lucky the left one turns on. However, the right just doesn't want to turn on. Kind of seems half baked.
Overall, the concept is good, the sound is good, it's just missing the mark on execution. Some things just seemed a little overlooked IMO.
You control the headphones using the two poorly placed buttons on the earbuds which can be quite difficult to press while using them, but the physical control is nice though quite limited. You have single and double clicks to control your music (play/pause and next track, respectively). However, going to the previous track isn't possible. You can hold the button to initiate Siri as well. Let's talk about the control on the right side for a second, you get a button that can turn it on and off, but that's it. You can't press it to do any control on the earbuds which is quite depressing.
When you remove the right one from your ear, it stops playing, your left cuts out momentarily and continues doing its thing. When you put it back in you get stereo sound once more. The right bud actually shuts off when you take it off. When you take out the left bud, the right goes silent. This probably is due to the way they are coupled. It's similar to the auto-pause that the AirPods come with, but not quite. It's a nice touch.
When you remove them from the case, they should turn on automatically. Well, if I'm lucky the left one turns on. However, the right just doesn't want to turn on. Kind of seems half baked.
Overall, the concept is good, the sound is good, it's just missing the mark on execution. Some things just seemed a little overlooked IMO.
Jyri
818
Nuforce
Dec 7, 2017
tinyman392Thank you for the detailed feedback. I will add some information, which hopefully will help/clarify...
Sound - please allow the Free8s to play around 100h. The boominess should go away. We are using extremely high quality driver with proprietary coating. The driver will need some burn in to loosen up. The package includes two types of SpinFit eartips. By default the Free8s are using shorter tips which provide more comfortable fit (to some) and reduce the impact that an eartip´s tube can do to sound. The other option is longer regular SpinFit type tip which provides better seal and could sound better to some as well.
Controls - challenges with technology, product size, price point etc. Some prefer that the button is placed on top so that you don't need to press your ear while you try to press the buttons. We use NFMI technology to connect the left and right earpiece together. Thus, only left one can control source device. NFMI is superior to Bluetooth but more expensive. On the market, BE Free8 is the lowest priced NFMI pair (together with Bragi The Headphone but we have longer battery, AAC+aptX, dynamic driver and so on...). Next closest NFMI pair would be $199.
Removing right earpiece - side effect of the NFMI technology. When you remove the right earpiece the left one will function normally but it stops transmitting the signal to the right earpiece. NFMI range is very short as the signal is unidirectional.
Removing from the case - unfortunately another limitation with the technology, price point, size etc. The product is designed so that the left earpiece will turn on automatically (as it will connect with your smartphone) and the right earpiece needs to be turned on manually.
All in all - I appreciate the feedback and despite the caveats I do hope you enjoy using the BE Free8s. I have personally tested majority of the true wireless earphones on the market and for audiophiles and audio enthusiasts, I cannot recommend any other pair than the Free8s. Having said that, I took notes of your comments and we will go back to the drawing board. :-)
Sound - please allow the Free8s to play around 100h. The boominess should go away. We are using extremely high quality driver with proprietary coating. The driver will need some burn in to loosen up. The package includes two types of SpinFit eartips. By default the Free8s are using shorter tips which provide more comfortable fit (to some) and reduce the impact that an eartip´s tube can do to sound. The other option is longer regular SpinFit type tip which provides better seal and could sound better to some as well.
Controls - challenges with technology, product size, price point etc. Some prefer that the button is placed on top so that you don't need to press your ear while you try to press the buttons. We use NFMI technology to connect the left and right earpiece together. Thus, only left one can control source device. NFMI is superior to Bluetooth but more expensive. On the market, BE Free8 is the lowest priced NFMI pair (together with Bragi The Headphone but we have longer battery, AAC+aptX, dynamic driver and so on...). Next closest NFMI pair would be $199.
Removing right earpiece - side effect of the NFMI technology. When you remove the right earpiece the left one will function normally but it stops transmitting the signal to the right earpiece. NFMI range is very short as the signal is unidirectional.
Removing from the case - unfortunately another limitation with the technology, price point, size etc. The product is designed so that the left earpiece will turn on automatically (as it will connect with your smartphone) and the right earpiece needs to be turned on manually.
All in all - I appreciate the feedback and despite the caveats I do hope you enjoy using the BE Free8s. I have personally tested majority of the true wireless earphones on the market and for audiophiles and audio enthusiasts, I cannot recommend any other pair than the Free8s. Having said that, I took notes of your comments and we will go back to the drawing board. :-)
tinyman392
267
Dec 7, 2017
JyriAt this point and time I can’t get the left one to turn on when I take it out of the case either. Not a big deal as I do have to turn them both on. I appreciate the response though, lots of stuff makes sense now.
TheContraptionist
447
Jan 28, 2018
My thoughts on these for anyone interested in hopping on this drop; https://thecontraptionist.blog/2018/01/12/optoma-nuforce-be-free8-unplug/
WaydeR
56
Oct 21, 2018
I'd like to pipe in with a quick praise for what I consider this product's primary strong point, durability & longevity.
I've used lots of wireless IEMs, some really good ones too that sound better than these. But these have become my go-to for the gym. Other wireless IEMs I've tested slowly disintegrate under my gym-use, I've never had one that last a full year. Problems include one channel going out, or the joining (behind the neck) cable wearing out and coming apart.
I got these as soon as they first hit the market, I've been using them solid for at least over a year, maybe closer to two years now, I don't remember the exact date I got them.
I've put some Comply tips on them and it helps the sound quality. SQ isn't bad, but I've heard better and Comply eartips add a bit more punch and bass to the overall presentation which fits my workout playlists that consists of more metal, aggressive EDM and hip-hop/metal crossover songs.
The case is a great shape for sliding into my pocket and not leaving an alarming bulge in my pants. The battery life easily exceeds my workouts. I've even heat stressed them by bringing them into the sauna with me several times, using the left only so I can listen to podcasts. Eventually the bud turned off on me, I assumed it was heat and humidity so I put it back in the charger case and didn't try that again. But, after some time to recharge and cool off it worked for fine ever since.
The secure fit is good, and I was skeptical considering how much of it sticks out of my head, but it's balanced nicely. Comply eartips definitely solidifies the fit and make them even more comfortable.
I've read some people having problems with one bud not charging correctly, I haven't had that issue with these but did have it with some cheaper models I tested. Generally, you'll want to try to keep those contacts clean and ensure they are actually making contact. Otherwise, if you experience that problem I guess it's just FUBAR. That was the case with the aofrementioned cheaper ones I tested before settling on these.
I don't know how much longer they'll last, I've gone through quite a few wireless IEMs over the years but these have hung on for the longest of any I've used. If they go out on me, I'd think nothing of joining this drop.
Good luck!
Wayde
I've used lots of wireless IEMs, some really good ones too that sound better than these. But these have become my go-to for the gym. Other wireless IEMs I've tested slowly disintegrate under my gym-use, I've never had one that last a full year. Problems include one channel going out, or the joining (behind the neck) cable wearing out and coming apart.
I got these as soon as they first hit the market, I've been using them solid for at least over a year, maybe closer to two years now, I don't remember the exact date I got them.
I've put some Comply tips on them and it helps the sound quality. SQ isn't bad, but I've heard better and Comply eartips add a bit more punch and bass to the overall presentation which fits my workout playlists that consists of more metal, aggressive EDM and hip-hop/metal crossover songs.
The case is a great shape for sliding into my pocket and not leaving an alarming bulge in my pants. The battery life easily exceeds my workouts. I've even heat stressed them by bringing them into the sauna with me several times, using the left only so I can listen to podcasts. Eventually the bud turned off on me, I assumed it was heat and humidity so I put it back in the charger case and didn't try that again. But, after some time to recharge and cool off it worked for fine ever since.
The secure fit is good, and I was skeptical considering how much of it sticks out of my head, but it's balanced nicely. Comply eartips definitely solidifies the fit and make them even more comfortable.
I've read some people having problems with one bud not charging correctly, I haven't had that issue with these but did have it with some cheaper models I tested. Generally, you'll want to try to keep those contacts clean and ensure they are actually making contact. Otherwise, if you experience that problem I guess it's just FUBAR. That was the case with the aofrementioned cheaper ones I tested before settling on these.
I don't know how much longer they'll last, I've gone through quite a few wireless IEMs over the years but these have hung on for the longest of any I've used. If they go out on me, I'd think nothing of joining this drop.
Good luck!
Wayde
Julianlopez_85
9
Jan 30, 2018
4 hours of battery life? Really? Am I the only one who thinks this is a big deal breaker?
Julianlopez_85
9
Apr 1, 2018
ok so let's divide the bluetooth iem group into two main groups the premium market which include bose/beoplay/beats(these are premiumly priced but does not offer premium sound) and that and the mid premium market (jaybirds/v-moda/mee-audio/plantronics). Now i can't comment on the premium market too much because i don't have the budget to purchase them but based on me reading articles on the net, the mid premium market average around 6-7 hours which i believe is reasonable. I'll give you a scenario i use to the train to commute to work and approximately takes me about 30-35 mins from leaving my house to arriving at my workplace. Now if the battery life is 4 hours, then i most likely would have to charge the iem every two days, if it increased to 6 hours then i'd charge them twice a week or so. I actually have a pair of plantronics backbeat go 2 which were great initially but i changed them for 2 reasons, the first, my DAP doesn't support DSD over bluetooth and the second is definately battery life. Now this is subjective and may not apply to you but the fact the battery life sucks means there's one more thing i need to charge, so my solution? I went back to wired iems....doesn't really bother me anymore since the SQ is is a step up.....
Julianlopez_85
9
Apr 1, 2018
Julianlopez_85of course there's a third category which is the lower end generic/unbranded chinese bluetooth iems but i've never really delved into this category so yea can't comment....
EulogioGallo
7
Dec 29, 2017
Received mine a few days ago. Pairing was pretty straightforward, I put in the SpinFit eartips and started listening to music. Sound quality is very good, and they're very comfortable to wear. I was surprised at how well they rest in my ear: not too heavy, no moving around or falling out of the ear. Buttons can be a little hard to press, you have to kind of hold your ear and earbud together before pressing in order to get earbud to stay still long enough to press hard enough, if that makes sense. It's kind of disappointing that the right button is essentially functionless, especially for a right-handed individual.
All that is not a deal breaker at all, but I will say that Bluetooth connectivity has been an issue. If I have my phone in my right pocket and am just walking, I will get consistent distortion and interference. Putting the phone in my left pocket (and presumably closer to the left earphone) makes it a bit more tolerable, but I still get plenty of interference. I basically have to be sitting or have the phone in a breast pocket to guarantee there is no interference and that's just about a deal breaker for me.
I'm going to continue to use these for a bit, but if these problems are persistent enough then I'll probably return them. Again, these are great sounding and fitting truly wireless earphones. If connectivity was more consistent I would be a very happy camper.
All that is not a deal breaker at all, but I will say that Bluetooth connectivity has been an issue. If I have my phone in my right pocket and am just walking, I will get consistent distortion and interference. Putting the phone in my left pocket (and presumably closer to the left earphone) makes it a bit more tolerable, but I still get plenty of interference. I basically have to be sitting or have the phone in a breast pocket to guarantee there is no interference and that's just about a deal breaker for me.
I'm going to continue to use these for a bit, but if these problems are persistent enough then I'll probably return them. Again, these are great sounding and fitting truly wireless earphones. If connectivity was more consistent I would be a very happy camper.
Bob3600
200
Mar 31, 2018
Where do you find the Trinity Audio Kombi tips??? I looked around Amazon but no luck. What else do they make?
Thanks.
RojasTKD
375
Mar 31, 2018
Bob3600They came with my Trinity Audio IEMs from one of their Kickstarter campaigns.
You should be able to buy directly from them. Trinity Audio Engineering.com, but my brother says it"s not safe or something. Not sure what's going on.
The have a Facebook page, if the didn't isn't fixed soon.
You should be able to buy directly from them. Trinity Audio Engineering.com, but my brother says it"s not safe or something. Not sure what's going on.
The have a Facebook page, if the didn't isn't fixed soon.
tinyman392
267
Nov 18, 2017
TatteredmidnightTechnically yes. But the universal version of a custom IEM typically has a distinct type of shape that not all regular IEMs have. This typically makes them a little bigger than most regular IEMs as well.
svtcobra00
113
Jan 28, 2018
16 hours of battery life if you charge them 4 times with the included charging case.
jjcf
40
Jan 9, 2018
Can I just shove Comply tips on t hem? I've never found a rubber flange that fits or sounds as good as foamies.
Jyri
818
Nuforce
Jan 9, 2018
jjcfYes. Comply has designed tips for True Wireless earphones as well. You could use regular Comply tips but those don't fit inside the charging case.
- Jyri /NuForce
- Jyri /NuForce
nizwiz
34
Jan 31, 2018
Got them elsewhere last week, for watching TV. These are the only true wireless earbuds sporting aptX LL that I've come across. TheContraptionist's review below is spot on. However, I find the constant background noise unbearable. So much so that I'm going to return them. It really ruins quieter passages of music or movies.
Androidknee
48
Mar 31, 2018
nizwizNizwiz...what are you using as a Bluetooth transmitter for your TV and have you experienced audio/visual lag? Thanks.
Ershad
125
Jan 23, 2019
I wish mine would have been from the same batch as yours was cause the constant white noise background annoyance in mine is intolorable.
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