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Quilters Dream Batting Sampler

Quilters Dream Batting Sampler

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The Quilter’s Dream Batting Sampler gives you the choice of three equally sweet dreams in Natural Select Dream Cotton, Dream Green, and Dream Orient. Each batting sample features machine washable material that has been carded, crosslapped, and needlepunched for your convenience Read More

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redjul31
28
Aug 28, 2014
After reading through the comments, I just wanted to add a few things. I am a long arm quilter. Obviously I can buy direct from Quilter's Dream. I LOVE their batting. However, if I factor in the free shipping with this drop, the pricing is very close to what I would pay to order direct. I don't know about other areas of the country but I can vouch that the recent Free Spirit fat quarter drop and the Far, Far Away drop were both great deals when compared with prices around Dallas, TX. The average from MD was around $2.00 per fat quarter - most local quilt stores are running about $3 to $3.50 per fat quarter. In addition a lot of the local stores don't order the complete line. Being privy to wholesale pricing with fabric, I can safely say it has skyrocketed in the last five years.
Sure, Fabric.com does run specials and their pricing may slightly edge mass drop depending on their current sale. Of course, being a subsidiary of Amazon.com gives them a huge edge in the shipping rates category. While Mass Drop includes US shipping, don't forget they are still having to pay postage. Obviously, there aren't many if any companies that can negotiate shipping rates as low as Amazon can.
I have noticed that the customer service at Fabric.com has been steadily going down hill. Shipping is taking longer and I've received three orders either missing fabric or having horrible miscuts. I've noticed issues with Mass Drop items BUT what impresses me is that their people pop on here, apologize and get it fixed. I think it's like anything else - everyone makes mistakes. As a customer, you just want to know that sooner rather than later, the company will make it right. Seems like MD is definitely on the right path! I would much rather support a small, growing company with a great philosophy rather than a rather bloated entity.
Libby
72
Aug 25, 2014
A major fabric site that runs daily deals, regularly runs this batting at 15% off. During one of these sales, you are only paying 95 cents more than the lowest price of this drop for the twin. For the lowest price of the queen, it is better at $4.46 cheaper, however, on that site you can get the super queen and queen for the same price. The super queen is longer so it makes more sense to order it over the queen. This particular site includes free shipping for orders over $35. I don't have to buy all three and I can have it in less than a week. This deal is lukewarm at best for the twin and okay for the queen (for U.S. customers). The wool batting deal was so much better.
What is going on with the crafting deals right now? The highest price off any crafting deal currently being offered is at 27% off MSRP. The lowest is 17%. Those are not numbers that get me to pull out my wallet. I can find those prices elsewhere on the internet.
riddleandwhimsy
19
Aug 26, 2014
LibbyLibby, I think it's great that you have the option of where you can purchase cheap crafting supplies but lots of people don't have that option so just because it doesn't suit you personally doesn't mean there aren't other people out there benefitting from these sales. Just because MD have the ability to buy in bulk doesn't mean they have the same buying power that large and major stores have. I for one, am impressed with what Massdrop have been offering, and am grateful for their cheap international shipping because I have been picking up some great bargains here that I can't afford elsewhere.
SarahR
101
Aug 26, 2014
LibbyHi Libby and digitalnicotine-
I'm sorry to hear you aren't happy with our pricing lately. Our goal is to always price products as low as we possibly can. We hate to offer prices so low for a particular product that we would not be able to offer that product again in the future. With crafting products, there is often not much wiggle room to adjust pricing.
If we have a substantial number of sales for a particular product, we can go back to the manufacturer and ask for an additional, lower price point. The best way to keep our prices as low as possible is for large numbers of people to join a drop. We are always doing the best we can to get you the best price possible, and I really appreciate your feedback. Thanks! Sarah
Libby
72
Aug 26, 2014
I addressed that I was specifically talking about U.S. customers in my original post. I understand fully that international customers feel differently. That doesn't mean that I, as a U.S. customer, cannot give constructive feedback.
You realize that If U.S. customers get deals they cannot find elsewhere, then international customers would also benefit as your prices would go down even more? The fact of the matter is that MassDrop is a U.S. company that negotiates with U.S. vendors and U.S. based distributors. I have an expectation that these negotiations will result in prices that I cannot find anywhere else. Why do I have that expectation? Because that is how MassDrop is holding itself out here in the U.S.. That is how it has chosen to advertise its purpose for existence in order to have a competitive edge in the marketplace. MassDrop advertises that the reason I need to use its service is that it will negotiate a deal that I cannot find on my own because I don't have leverage. That if a group of us get together, we now have leverage to strike a deal below what can be found elsewhere. The downside for me is that I take on a two risks: 1) that MassDrop will take my money but won't perform under the contract and 2) that I won't get my order in as timely I would elsewhere. There is little point to this business model if I can get the deals offered elsewhere and I don't have to assume these risks.
Those of you in other countries may not realize that in U.S. jurisprudence, great weight is put on how a company advertises. I won't go into the specific legal obligations of MassDrop, because it isn't relevant as of now, but if they have U.S. customers and are advertising in the U.S., they do have an obligation to comply with U.S. Laws, specifically the UCC regarding advertising.
I don't buy the argument that the pricing isn't fully in the control of MassDrop. Off the top of my head, I can think of at least four factors that could be impacting the pricing. Only one of those factors concerns pricing from the vendor. That could still be solved by more efficient negotiations such as better research, creative deal making, or putting better negotiators in place. The other three are: 1) not negotiating lower shipping costs with carriers (UPS/USPS/Fedex); or 2) the deals have become so popular or the operating costs have gotten too high and Massdrop is taking a larger fee; or 3) the higher costs of shipping internationally is being absorbed by all of us .
It is evident that MassDrop is growing rapidly. This has caused some glitches in some transactions such as poor communication with customers and vendors, poor packaging, and poor shipping times. Many of us have experienced more than one of these. I want MassDrop to succeed. That is why I thought it was prudent to let MassDrop know that poor pricing is not something this customer is willing to accept. It was merely my constructive feedback to the deal(s) being offered currently.
Furthermore, in other sections of MassDrop, the pricing of drops is being discussed. I do not see why we can't discuss it in crafting as well. How will MassDrop know why drops are more or less successful if we don't speak up? No one wins in that situation. The employees of MassDrop have exerted a lot of time and energy behind the scenes to bring us these drops and if even one customer doesn't join a drop that would ordinary participate, then that is dollars falling right through their fingers. It is also time and energy that could have been spent more productively elsewhere that does make money for the company.
The bottom line is that there is no question that I am going to buy. The question is "am I going to buy on MassDrop"? If MassDrop isn't fulfilling my price points, and a competitor is offering it at the same or lower price, without all of the glitches and risk, then I am going to give my money to another competitor. It is really that simple. I would like to support MassDrop, but I am not going to do it when there is no upside for me.
I bring this to the forefront because this is a drop that I wanted to participate in and is the type of product I want to see offered on MassDrop. I appreciate that MassDrop has listened to their customers with respect to that. I hope that it will consider this feedback for future drops.
SarahR
101
Aug 26, 2014
LibbyDear @Libby-I really appreciate your feedback! I promise we are doing our best to negotiate with vendors and shipping companies.
I also looked at a major fabric website that offers free shipping over $35 and the total I came up with for the three sizes of twin batting was 59.95.
This is certainly the place to discuss, disagree, and leave constructive feedback. Everyone's contribution is helpful and welcome.
Thanks for helping our community grow!
riddleandwhimsy
19
Aug 27, 2014
LibbyNo one is saying you can't give feedback. I've just seen a few complaints (in crafting and other sections too) about finding cheaper prices elsewhere, and frankly it all reads to me as a misunderstanding on how buying actually works.
I used to work in a retailer that had 60 stores nationwide. I'd often get customers come in complaining they can buy the same thing at a competitor for cheaper. The difference is the competitor has over 200 stores nationwide. So, for my store to stock 10 items per store for 60 stores, that's only 600 units the company needs to buy. For a business with 200 stores, for them to stock 10 units per store they need TWO THOUSAND. This means they need to buy more from the supplier, which means they're able to get a cheaper bulk rate than my (ex)employer because they're buying over three times as many.
From what I know of Massdrop it's a fairly new offering so they're still trying to build up their customer base. This means there's only a certain number of people available to sell to until the site grows, so when making negotiations, MD buyers also need to walk the fine line of being realistic about how many customers they're likely to sell to to know what the best deal is to bargain for. Aiming too high for a super cheap price means a drop might not go through because there aren't enough people site wide to make the purchase happen to begin with. On the flip side I've seen drops sell out fast because the item demand outweighed what MD actually bought.
IMO, I think instead of complaining on every single item about the price, why not help MD with a little marketing and try and drum up new customers, because the more people there are to sell to, the more product MD would be able to purchase to then end up with a cheaper rate? It's all well and good to point out "a major store" sells something cheaper/same price however they would already have an established customer base which, at a guess, is larger than what Massdrop has, which comes down to - the bigger the store, the more they can buy in bulk = the cheaper price they can get.
In regards to shipping costs being absorbed, that is a likely possibility, however I wouldn't put all the blame on international shipping as domestic shipping is actually FREE, isn't it? So that is also a cost that's being eaten up somewhere.
Mark
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Admin User
Aug 27, 2014
Just so everybody knows, you are allowed (and encouraged) to post the names of other companies in the comments. If Joanne's or fabric.com or whatnot are offering a better price, by all means let everyone know. Our attitude is to be community driven first, and commercially driven second. We want our members to talk about and acquire the best products at the best prices, and where you get it is a much lower priority.
Thanks for the polite and intelligent discussion in the thread. All of your contributions are highly appreciated.
brenda52411
181
Feb 26, 2018
No king size?? Please?
brenda52411
181
Mar 1, 2018
brenda52411Can we get king sized batting the next time, please? I can't be the only person in the world with a king bed.
lexxi
71
Aug 26, 2014
Hey Libby,
Those are all fair points to bring up. Especially about Massdrop growing rapidly, they may still be adjusting to that growth. I understand what you're saying. And, yes, I agree that they probably have other factors to look at lower costs (I think every company does). And really that's something they need to do on their own to get business (if they choose to). My dad always says that people vote with their wallets.
All that being said, I'm thinking back to a zillion years ago when my family had a music store. We were paying for new release CDs (remember those? :D) for $15/CD and selling them at $18. Best Buy was selling the same CD for $10. They were getting it at a lower price and/or selling it at a loss to draw customers in. We couldn't compete with that. There wasn't enough that we could change to get our price that low and it wouldn't make sense for us, as a small mom and pop shop, to do that (arguably we could sell it at $10 and take a $5+ hit per sale, but we chose not to).
I agree that Massdrop could potentially do things to lower the price for us, I also think there are certain limits to what they can/choose to do. We want them to make some money so they stick around. It doesn't make sense for them to sell something where they lose money. It's not like a fabric shop or where ever you're looking for the cheaper batting where a consumer is more likely to also buy a fabric pack, and a few yards of this, etc, and the company makes profits overall. These are one off purchases on here.
lexxi
71
Aug 25, 2014
I imagine it's all based on the prices that they can get the merchandise at. Especially since at first they're only buying 1 bolt * each fabric in a line, vs bigger stores buying 10 bolts * each fabric in a line, so they get better deals.
KJR10915
6
Oct 18, 2016
Need to make sure I understand this. Is the price for 1 of the battings...pick which one? or do you one of each of the battings for the drop price?
SandyLucas
771
Oct 18, 2016
KJR10915Hi @KJR10915, You get all three in the twin size. You have the option of changing up to a Queen size for an additional $20.
Megafee
0
Oct 13, 2014
Any idea when the snafu concerning the queen size orders might be cleared up? Thanks!
Hey everyone,
We’re happy to report that all of the orders have been shipped out!
Thanks again for the support guys. Make sure to share your experience with the Quilter’s Dream Batting Sampler on Massdrop.
If there’s anything else we can do to make your Massdrop experience better, feel free to email us at support@massdrop.com.
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