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742
Apr 7, 2017
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Could anyone explain why you'd have a 91U jis board with only Romaji characters like the NG31? I thought the whole point of 91 was so that you can swap alphabets.
Cyphre
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Apr 7, 2017
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consolationYeah that part is a little disappointing, although even other Realforce JIS boards seem to be lacking alternate characters as well. On the plus side, the board is still fitted to take a JIS layout and there are replacement realforce sets out there.
But yeah, makes me question whether or not to still get the NG31BS....
But yeah, makes me question whether or not to still get the NG31BS....
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742
Apr 7, 2017
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Cyphre NG0100 & 1B0 have full set of characters, I was just wondering why you'd have a 91jis board with only roman chars; I've come across other boards like that, so it's a "thing." I'm just not sure what niche they serve, weeaboo who don't speak Japanese?
crocus
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Apr 7, 2017
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consolationI don't know about this board but Filco stopped putting the Kana on their boards (かななし) because it cluttered the layout and because of the globalisation so "wow holy shit Roman characters that's so tight" etc.
Elixir
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Apr 8, 2017
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consolationBecause Japanese don't use Kana layouts any more, so having printed Hiragana is pointless. Everyone uses qwerty + some form of IME.
consolation
742
Apr 8, 2017
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ElixirSo are the modifier keys either side of the spacebar, on a 91 keyboard, pointless?
Elixir
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Apr 8, 2017
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consolationyeah. Things like Google IME learn Kanji through common use (ie. writing sekai/世界/world and pressing space and Enter on the result you want multiple times will put it at the top of the list), so you don't need a key just to convert. It brings up a list of different possibilities which can be chosen with 1/2/3/4/etc and Enter. The only actual Japanese key that people might find useful is the zenkaku key, which switches between English and Japanese.
The dedicated Yen key is also useless, because you can just write enn and press tab and it will be there.
The dedicated Yen key is also useless, because you can just write enn and press tab and it will be there.
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742
Apr 8, 2017
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Elixirzenkaku is the one where tilde "~" would usually be? I have a friend going away to Japan to teach english, I was going to put together a 60% semi-jis keyboard for her based on the GH60 PCB (as a going away gift); but sounds like it's a bit of a pointless exercise? Which keys would you keep from 91JIS?
Elixir
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Apr 8, 2017
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consolationYeah, 全角 is where the tilde is. If I was going to use a JIS layout I would just use a JIS layout as they come, I used one for 6 years and it was fine.
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742
Apr 8, 2017
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ElixirThat makes it simple, I have a set of pretty nice JIS doubleshot-pad prints (I guess that's one way to get lots of symbols on a cap) that I harvested off a random board, will only need to add the TKL/function key program layer and I'm set. Cheers.
crocus
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Apr 8, 2017
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ElixirWhen I texted a Japanese friend that my first mechkeyboard is a JIS she was like "lololol why would you do that?" Ahah. But I like the extra (dead) keys since I can remap to whatever I want without having to compromise some functions out of the normal ISO. So thumbs up for JIS.
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