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The original Mordax was one of Ferrum Forge’s most popular designs. Usually the custom knife shop only makes limited batches of each knife—but thanks to our strong partnership and the Massdrop community’s demonstrated interest in their work, we’re bringing the Mordax back, this time with a few key changes to make it even better Read More
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FerrumForge_Elliot
Jan 14, 2019
Jonas' words are not hyperbole. I have been talking with Pro-Tech about this project since 2015. Dave wanted to get the button lock flipper perfected first and it took some time, years, in fact. But now it is real! The Mordax is coming back to life in a ridiculously fidget-friendly configuration (you're gonna be flippin' and droppin' the blade closed a lot) that is super addictive. I love it when manufactures actually listen to me about metallurgy and Dave totally did. We use CPM 20CV almost all the time now on our made in Cali knives because we find it to have some of the best balance of characteristics for a pocket knife. The original Mordax run from 2015 was in N690 stainless steel, not a terrible steel, in fact, a steel I actually like a lot, but people have been asking for years if we would re-run the Mordax model with 20CV since we use it so much now. When Dave said he was game to try out 20CV, I about fainted... I knew this project was going to be hot fire.
A complaint we heard about the original Mordax was that the blade stock was too thick for some people, so on this version the blade stock .125in thick and the tall flat grind makes this a slicey blade. I love titanium, but it was going to kick the price of this knife way up there, so we opted to keep it more budget-friendly and stick with aluminium. Pro-Tech also does a very nice job with their hard coat aluminium anodizing and we loved the blue and green colors. I've owned (and usually lost) Pro-Tech knives for over a decade at this point, in fact, Dave has one of every knife they have ever made in his office and we are pretty sure I owned one the very first runs of Runts he did almost 20 years ago. It's so awesome to be able to work with my heros and bring great knives to the world. It can be a lot work and stress sometimes, but projects like this make it all worthwhile for me.
Here's my OG Mordax from 2015 next to the MDxPTxFF Mordax.
Axeguy
1372
Sep 4, 2019
FerrumForgeKnifeWorksFF guys,
I'm likin' that HR Giger Edition Mordax with the bowie blade!!! How much for a custom along those lines...?
Gadgetman7
91
Jan 15, 2019
I don’t dislike this knife but it’s more than the titanium handled Zero Tolerance Knives with the same steel. I don’t understand the pricing. I’ll pass on this one.
Omniseed
1972
Jan 17, 2019
But regardless, their 20CV knives start at $220 and are mostly $240 or more for actual retail, right?
So ZT makes comparable but different knives that span a range of prices including barely less than this one up to much more than this one. They aren't Ti framelocks, but they're clearly no less than equal. Pro-Tech makes great button locks and the knife is trim, large, and light because of the aluminum. In titanium I would guess the cost at around $300 for a smooth handle and the weight would likely be around .75-1oz heavier, which would make a big difference in how easily it carries.
With the sub-4oz weight with aluminum, the somewhat large size isn't an impediment because it carries so well. I tend to leave knives at home or only rarely carry them if they weigh 5oz or more, not on purpose but it's just the way it is. Most of the knives I actually carry will be between 3-~4.5oz. Knives like the Crux, PM2, titanium Kizers. Sometimes they're a bit heftier like the Barrage 580-2, but my 5.3oz Rike gets left home all the time.
JonasHeineman
5987
Jan 14, 2019
Hey everyone,
The Mordax is our seventh collaboration with Ferrum Forge, but represents a number of firsts. For starters, it’s our first launch of 2019 - Happy New Year! It’s also our first button-lock flipper, the first knife with an aluminum handle frame, our first knife made by Pro-Tech, and the first knife Massdrop collaboration to feature CPM-20CV steel. In fact, it’s the first time Pro-Tech has ever made a knife with a 20CV blade - and there’s a lot of this super-premium powdered metallurgy steel packed into the Mordax, which at 3.6” is the largest blade of any collaboration to date.
The Mordax is also the first Massdrop x Ferrum Forge collaboration directly based on a model that Ferrum Forge previously offered as a limited release made in their own shop. While influences and similarities can be found on the Falcon, Crux, Gent, Buc, Dao, they are all original designs made in collaboration with Massdrop. Another unique aspect of this knife is that it is 100% designed and produced in Southern California, with all parts of the knife - including the steel - 100% made in the USA. Based on customer feedback on the first Mordax, the blade stock was reduced by about 1mm (from 4mm to 3mm) to make it thinner behind the edge and more utilitarian.
It wasn’t long after the limited release of 200 hand-built Mordax in 2015, when customers asked for more of the popular model to be made, that the Williamson brothers began talking to Dave Wattenberg, the driving force behind Pro-Tech Knives, about making a button-lock production version. While both were interested in the project, it wasn’t feasible for either company to bring them to market...until now, thanks to the Massdrop community of Blades enthusiasts, who have already purchased over 10,000 knives designed by Ferrum Forge.
The project was already well underway when headed down to check out the 2018 California Custom Knife Show, which gave us a chance to meet up with Chris and Elliot at the Pro-Tech Shop. That’s when we got a chance to tour the shop, meet all the folks who run the machines and do the top-notch assembly and finishing that has earned Pro-Tech a stellar reputation from the full spectrum of knife enthusiasts, from collectors who snap up their hand-engraved, limited-edition pieces (mostly $3000 - $8000) to law enforcement officers and active duty military personnel.
More than any other style of knife, Pro-Tech has widely earned respect for their push-button automatics. The design, engineering, and manufacturing of those autos is what made them the obvious choice to execute this push-button manual flipper at the level that our community expects from Massdrop collaborations.
Working with Chris, Elliot, and Dave, we looked at steel options that Pro-Tech uses for their other knives. While 154CM and S35VN are certainly no slouches, we wanted to stay true to the original and use the same powdered metallurgy 20CV steel that Chris and Elliot do for most of their limited releases, which is a big upgrade from the ingot N690 that was used in the original Mordax blades. Asking a manufacturer to work with new materials can always present challenges, but Dave and his team were up to the challenge of grinding the blades and perfecting the finishes. And speaking of finishes, Dave was a big help in selecting anodization colors that have been tested, refined, and gotten the best reviews from Pro-Tech customers on their other models. We’re grateful for his partnership on this and proud to feature our first Pro-Tech-made collaboration to the community.
For more background here's a video that Chris and Elliot made talking about this project's evolution.
Carry On -- Jonas
1/16/19: Based on feedback from members and reviewers, we have made a minor change to the final production which we hope you will agree is an improvement: Instead of using 1.5mm hex (allen) for the pivot hardware, Pro-Tech will use T8 Torx hardware. HT to @IanEDC and CutleryLover for a great suggestion. This kind of community-driven design improvement is a great example of what makes this community unique. 1/29/19: We spoke to the Pro-Tech team at SHOT Show and discussed reviewer feedback. One thing that a few people mentioned was that edges of the milling on the pattern below the holes, in the finger grip area was a bit sharp. Pro-Tech let us know that the final production run will go through a longer tumble that will smooth out the edges - another small but important improvement based on community feedback. ------------------------- UPDATE - VIDEO REVIEWS : We sent out production samples to a number of YouTube knife reviewers, here are the links: Cutlery Lover
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Nick Shabazz
Slicey Dicey
1/16/19: Based on feedback from members and reviewers, we have made a minor change to the final production which we hope you will agree is an improvement: Instead of using 1.5mm hex (allen) for the pivot hardware, Pro-Tech will use T8 Torx hardware. HT to @IanEDC and CutleryLover for a great suggestion. This kind of community-driven design improvement is a great example of what makes this community unique. 1/29/19: We spoke to the Pro-Tech team at SHOT Show and discussed reviewer feedback. One thing that a few people mentioned was that edges of the milling on the pattern below the holes, in the finger grip area was a bit sharp. Pro-Tech let us know that the final production run will go through a longer tumble that will smooth out the edges - another small but important improvement based on community feedback. ------------------------- UPDATE - VIDEO REVIEWS : We sent out production samples to a number of YouTube knife reviewers, here are the links: Cutlery Lover
Luv Them Knives
Nick Shabazz
Slicey Dicey
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Ryansean97
2
Aug 23, 2019
Also curious and anxiously waiting for this. August is almost over lol very excited
Tsmax17
24
Aug 25, 2019
Ryansean97Yeah me too. In a recent video I watched by a reviewer, they quoted last Tuesday as the drop date, and I've heard multiple Drop reps quote August. Hopefully we get something soon, and a lower price would be perfect, but that may be too ambitious.
Kainam
4
Jan 14, 2019
Locked
Just wondering why you hang the American Flag backwards in the shop photo?
Brian L. USAF Combat Vet.
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Duncan
3731
Jan 15, 2019
NotsurewhyibotherHowdy folks! Friendly neighborhood moderator here. Got a noise complaint so I had to come check it out. Learned alot about flag hanging today, but am gonna have to shut this chit chat down. Sorry about that. Carry on and have a good day everyone.
bmdub
65
Jan 18, 2019
No thanks. You've already shown me this is a suckers deal. I'll wait until it's made and ready to ship in a day and you've got some fancy new carbon fiber scales or whatever for me to add on. Never doing this preorder thing again like I have for every other massdrop produced knife.
T.willy
463
Jan 31, 2019
Hey Did you get the Video Farrum Forge released today on the Archbishop 2.0!!😰 It sure as hell looks like another home run to me. It seems they heard the complaints about the Fortis 2.0 not being worth the extra $100 or so compared to the Massdrop models made of basically the same materials and done by the same company. The Archbishop 2.0 got a Steel upgrade to M390 and the mill work on the handles of the knives are mind blowing 😲 IMO
DougFLA123
1404
Jan 31, 2019
T.willyThanks for the heads up! I own the Fortis 2.0 and love it! The Archbishop 2.0 would be a nice companion piece!
Jschreiner1349
124
Jan 16, 2019
I know the quality won’t be on the same level, but Kershaw makes two models (Link and Dividend) that they make in America out of aluminum and M390 (equivalent to 20CV) for $80. Again, I’d expect the fit and finish on this new collab to be of a much higher caliber, but you can’t really use the materials/‘made in America’ as justification for the tremendous cost here when Kershaw can do something similar for 1/3 the base price.
Archienj7
64
Jan 30, 2019
The Link and Dividend in M390 for under 100$, and the Launch auto line up in CPM-154 under 100$ and made in America would beg to differ. That is what Protech uses mostly. CPM-154 and aluminum. My Launch 1 has been rock solid since I bought it when they first came out. Same with a lot of other people on theirs. So, evidently it kinda does make a pretty fair comparison. They can make good knives cheap with the same materials. It's also why I dont buy aluminum handles anymore. They are just too easy to beat up and I use all my knives. No queens, only tools.
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14themoney
1395
Jan 30, 2019
Archienj7I have the Launch 7. It's a great knife. It is probably my fault that it opens in my pocket. I have cut the crap out of myself a couple of times. I keep a bunch of stuff in my pocket and often times am crawling on the floor and in cabinets. I don't carry it anymore. I might buy a Launch 3 because I really like the looks and was very happy with the mechanics on the 7. My new Hogue has a lock button. Aluminum is not my favorite for handles. The slipperiness. I was thrilled when I picked up my Leek in CF here.
sedanchair
26
Jan 14, 2019
perlhkrThese days “Made in the USA” tends to mean “you’re paying boutique prices to pay for our labor”
perlhkr
113
Jan 15, 2019
Yeah ... I like ProTech in general (still want to get a TR-4 manual, since autos are verboten in my state) and of course, "value is in the eye of the beholder" :-), but I can't see spending $240+ for this when I can get an anodized Ti framelock WE 609 or WE 610 for $100 less right now, from KC and BHQ, for example. Still not priced as crazy as the new Spydie Subvert for $300+ though!
SmCaudata
64
Jan 25, 2019
I'm still on the fence with this one. I have all of the other FF colabs and in total only skipped on one collab from another designer. $240 is a tad high on the starting point for a first run purchase. That said, it isn't totally unreasonable. The Benchmade 940 is aluminum with s30V and comes it at $182 MAP. Protech is arguably a more premium manufacturer, so $240 is probably where it should be, it's still just a lot of money in the end and I probably have more knives than I need by this point.
Anyway, I just wanted to say. The knife looks great and I love the button lock.... Decisions, decisions.
1Alexdropforged
18
Jan 30, 2019
SmCaudataA flipper with a button lock will add another diversity to my collection, which will justify the price. If it actually drops like some of the knives do and all should, that will be a bonus.
Unwisefool
480
Jan 30, 2019
SmCaudataIf it makes you feel better, the Freeman 451 button lock flipper is aluminum with s35vn steel and is priced at $275.
JakeSizzle
194
Jan 15, 2019
I would have been on board with this if it was a bit smaller and AVAILABLE IN LEFT HANDED CARRY. Massdrop you listened with the Thresher and then put your earmuffs back on and then I guess logistics halted that option on this drop. Oh well, I get to keep my $250 this time.
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JonasHeineman
5987
Jan 17, 2019
Sweet, thanks for giving it a shot! Please let us know how it goes once you've had a chance to carry it a bit.
JaleesaG
1550
Marketing Team
Apr 11, 2019
Hi all!
Wanted to share a quick update on the Massdrop x Ferrum Forge Mordax Button Lock Folder. Production is underway and we’re super excited to share a sneak peek with you.
We’re on track to meet the expected ship date of June 28th and we can’t wait for you to receive and enjoy them. Stay tuned for another update soon!
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