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Like any tool, knives need to be cleaned and maintained to perform their best—which is why we’ve assembled this collection of items to keep your favorite folders and fixed blades clean, sharp, and working like new. To do so, we worked with KC Tool, the number one German tool distributor in the US, to bring together a comprehensive assortment of enthusiast-grade components Read More
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keyboard_arrow_downKavik
5531
Dec 5, 2018
2 things....
First, I find it odd that there aren't a couple small Phillips and Flathead bits included. In the "Knife Maintenance Kit to End All Knife Maintenance Kits", brought to you by MassDrop, you can't even disassemble the Gent.... Also brought to you by MassDrop 🤔
(much less any knives that use smaller screws in their scales)
Secondly, why is there a 4 month lead time when this is just a kit compiling preexisting items?
Is it really taking that long to manufacture a nylon storage pouch?
Kavik
5531
Dec 5, 2018
Is that so they can have MassDrop in big bold letters on the side of them? 😁😂🤣
Sorry, just a joke about the knife collaborations, couldn't resist.
But i guess that makes more sense if it's that big of an order, to avoid running short of stock elsewhere
underdog
4
Dec 6, 2018
As with firearms, hollow ground common bits are necessary. Not everyone has those and wonder why they fasteners are forever damaged.Then there are those Spanner bits.
It is a nice set though. It really has me on the fence.
cookiesowns
48
Dec 5, 2018
Any chance we can get this bundle without the Wera drivers? I already own quite a few different Wera handles so these won’t be of use.
Kavik
5531
Dec 5, 2018
Another user mentioned searching Amazon for soldering mats
There's tons of options, here's the one identical to the one in this drop:
https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B01N2QJGJU/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_Yp-bCb0K84TAK
mike.j
300
Dec 4, 2018
The Knife Maintenance Kit to End All Knife Maintenance Kits
How’s your knife holding up? Does the blade deploy like it did when it was new? Is the blade still centered? Might be time to clean out the dust and debris from your pockets and cuttings. Perhaps the action could be better on that brand new knife?
Our goal with this project was to create a kit complete enough to disassemble and reassemble any knife—one with a comprehensive component list that wouldn’t break the bank for our loyal community.
Our journey began with KC Tool, who kicked off the project by offering a kit of tools assembled by Sheepdog Knives. Their Knife Maker and Maintenance Kit was curated to have everything needed to take apart any knife. And with that, combined with quality Wera tools, we knew this was the perfect foundation for taking KC Tool's tool kit to new heights.
See Collin & Sheep of KC Tool show off the tools in this kit: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jYYJYYM1WVQ
Jonas and I ordered a bottle of EDCi based on community hype and gave it a try to see if it would make a good addition to the kit. There are many benefits of EDCi. In addition to effective corrosion inhibition, it also helps prevent hand oil smudges from accumulating all over the knife within a few flips. It's also great for reviving dull or faded anodized titanium.
See Cedric & Ada test EDCi:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E118UfFFoFY
For edge maintenance, we chose a strop. It's not a total replacement for sharpening, but it helps keep a sharp knife sharp with frequent touch-ups. The strop is perfect for in-between sharpening sessions by maintaining a fine edge after a week’s worth of cutting. Knives Plus produces the strop in this kit, which has a great nap preloaded with compound, making it incredibly easy to see if your edge is straight. Just keep stropping until you no longer see the leather nap being pulled up.
Watch Knives Plus demonstrating the use of their strop: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pwNdL86hyaM
You need a good lubricant to keep your blades fall shut and flipping smoothly. Nano-oil is great for its magnetic adherence ability and for its needle point applicator, allowing anyone to add a single drop anywhere as needed.
Watch Nick’s general review of pocket knife lubrication:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=77gsUhJNBiw
Overall, we wanted to produce a kit that would enable anyone who’s just getting into the hobby to have all the tools they’d need for disassembling, cleaning, and reassembling their precious pocket knives—all the while saving 20% while getting everything you need in one place.
Only the best,
Mike
reswright
3851
Jul 11, 2019
some things it is much, much better to do yourself.
I have no need for much of this kit but I do like the look of that tray.
reswright
3851
Jul 11, 2019
which, at a conservative estimate, appears to be the case for at least 20% of the knives in production today
RussB
228
Dec 5, 2018
Very compelling kit. I guess the people saying the price is too high don't know what these individual items cost. Can't speak about the mat, the cloth, or the strop, but the rest of the items are as top shelf as you can get.
All i really need that i don't have is the nano-oil and cleaner but everything listed is nicer than what i currently have and use (wiha torx keys, gun oil, decent diamond paste for strops, rubbing alcohol, a towel, and a bowl).
I hope this drop comes again after the holidays. Gifts for my kids are more important than gifts for me.
mike.j
300
Dec 5, 2018
RussBThanks for your thoughts, RussB. We try to only offer the best we can for our community members and base our products off the needs and wants of you all, the community.
The good news for you is that we'll have the kit rotating continuously every week. Even though it says it expires in 7 days, we'll be relaunching it immediately after it ends to keep this product available for anyone who wants or needs it. With that said, you'll have time after the holidays to pick this up at a more convenient time.
its_pronounced_fee
29
Dec 4, 2018
Would love it if that mat was available separately and if the mat had magnets (at least in the smaller cubby cutouts underneath the silicone) to keep the screws from moving around (especially if you suddenly have to move while working). Also, Torx Plus bits would be far better than regular Torx, I can't count how many times I've chewed up a bit because I should have been using Torx Plus (IP6) instead of regular Torx (T6).
Sheepdogknives
15
KC Tool
Dec 5, 2018
its_pronounced_feeThe Wera precision drivers in this set are Torx with a holding function. They are closer to torx plus in style and work great with all torx screws. i use these daily making my knives.
its_pronounced_fee
29
Dec 5, 2018
ahhh, that would explain why both my FF Falcon and FF BUC stripped three of my TORX bits even after heating up the screws. Wiha were kind enough to send me replacements and a TORX-PLUS bit, no issues with the TORX-PLUS bits so far though - too afraid to even try regular TORX.
Epic_Enkidu
206
Jan 8, 2019
This seems a bit overpriced for what you get. The mat can be had for less than $10($20 for the big ones), Wera screwdriver set for under $40(has more than his kit), and a Lansky kit for $40 or Accusharp for $55 or a whetstone for under $40. You can get honing oil for under $5 and a bunch of rags/wipes for less than $5.
You can save $15-$20 if you go for a cheaper screwdriver set. You can even switch for an iFixit driver kit for $35. So for $100 you can get this kit plus extras and get it faster from Amazon.
Mat - https://www.amazon.com/s/?ie=UTF8&keywords=soldering+mat&index=aps&tag=hydsma-20&ref=pd_sl_24333pj4ii_e&adgrpid=56815725555&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvadid=274693516503&hvpos=1t1&hvnetw=g&hvrand=13323975329538235777&hvqmt=e&hvdev=m&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9014093&hvtargid=kwd-301143197953
Screwdrivers -https://www.amazon.com/Wera-05073675001-Screwdriver-Electronic-Applications/dp/B009ODV0PI/ref=mp_s_a_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1546963529&sr=8-3&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_FMwebp_QL65&keywords=wera&dpPl=1&dpID=51tfrYOm3tL&ref=plSrch
iFixit - https://www.amazon.com/iFixit-IF145-299-4-Driver-Bit-64pc/dp/B0189YWOIO/ref=mp_s_a_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1546964600&sr=8-4&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_FMwebp_QL65&keywords=ifixit&dpPl=1&dpID=41CQZeumGIL&ref=plSrch
Lansky - https://www.amazon.com/Lansky-Deluxe-5-Stone-Sharpening-System/dp/B000B8IEA4/ref=mp_s_a_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1546964206&sr=8-4&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_FMwebp_QL65&keywords=sharpener+knife+kit&dpPl=1&dpID=51bOx2%2B0Z3L&ref=plSrch
Accusharp - https://www.amazon.com/AccuSharp-059C-Accusharp-Precision-Sharpening/dp/B01MFAVCB6/ref=mp_s_a_1_12?ie=UTF8&qid=1546964246&sr=8-12&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_FMwebp_QL65&keywords=Accusharp
Whetstone - https://www.amazon.com/s/?ie=UTF8&keywords=whetstone&index=aps&tag=hydsma-20&ref=pd_sl_6k9dvcz06l_e&adgrpid=55766864333&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvadid=274708744925&hvpos=1t1&hvnetw=g&hvrand=14789506987868387873&hvqmt=e&hvdev=m&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9014093&hvtargid=kwd-12625772
Starmax
2
Dec 4, 2018
Would love to pick this up, but as others have mentioned the high price is the main deterrent. My guess is its the Wera tools that are upping the price on this.
mike.j
300
Dec 4, 2018
I learned the hard way, unfortunately more than once, that quality tools are of the utmost importance. Stripped screw heads are never fun.
Sheepdogknives
15
KC Tool
Dec 5, 2018
mike.jThis is true. I was using another quality German brand for year but when I found Wera I tossed all the others and never looked back. Wera has the best quality.
EKChens
82
Dec 4, 2018
I absolutely love the concept but I'm surprised by the pricing... Which of these components is driving the cost up?
ecoleman
766
Dec 4, 2018
If you're looking for just the Torx drivers, Wiha tools makes good stuff that's not quite as pricey. Bondhus isn't a bad budget-friendly option either.
As far as a full kit like this, specifically for knife maintenance, I don't know of anything comparable.
mike.j
300
Dec 4, 2018
Hey NJG613,
The only other kit we know of is KC Tool's Knife Maker and Maintenance kit which you can find here:
https://www.kctoolco.com/wera-knife-maker-maintenance-set/
But it's just the tools.
awk
1600
Dec 4, 2018
This is a very nice set, basically the same as what use to maintain knives (I have the Wiha equivalents of the tools). The price is fair. I would've guessed $99.
These are some other things I use often:
- Set of fine tweezers (I can't grab those tiny screws with my big fingers)
- Set of dental picks (more for lifting parts out than anything else)
- plastic spudgers / lolipop sticks / etc
- 99.9% isopropyl alcohol (more powerful solvents/degreasers are useful too)
- solvent dispenser (just tap a cleaning cloth on it to moisten the cloth)
- Kimwipes (fancy tissues, these are awesome for many uses, I even use them to wipe off a hot soldering iron tip)
- the little gun cleaning cloths like Nick Shabazz uses (but sometimes I end up with ones that throw off huge amounts of lint)
- hard pointed cotton swabs (Puritan brand, various sizes)
- micro-brushes (I love these, very tiny 1-3mm brushes, great for precisely applying threadlocker or oil)
- hot air station or heat gun (to loosen loctite)
- Vibra-tite (non-curing threadlocker, I prefer it to Loctite which I only use for things like lock bar inserts)
- Frog Lube (mostly I use it to brighten up G10 but sometimes useful on internal steel parts that might rust)
mike.j
300
Dec 5, 2018
awkGreat list of tools and cleaners. I appreciate you taking the time to list everything out. We wish we could of included Vibra-tite but the shipping costs and regulation killed that option a long time ago. Its such a great threadlocker and is suberb at preventing screws from backing out after sitting on the couch and flipping a knife 100-200 times while your wife watches TV.
JonasHeineman
5987
Dec 5, 2018
awk+1 for VibraTite, way better than LocTite for knives. If it wasn’t a solvent and therefore crazy $$$ to ship we would have included that for $5 more.
Hatuletoh
850
Dec 5, 2018
Nice kit, no doubt. I haven't tried Wera drivers, but I HAVE tried a handful of others that did indeed strips screws, and themselves. Looking at you Kershaw Torx Tool, you cheap piece of crap...but ZT sent new screws, and since both Kershaw and ZT are owned by the same company, I guess we're square.
I finally found a very good one, though, with an attached storage rack that you cant loose: Kobalt, from Lowes. No strips since I picked up that Torx driver, plus it comes with T5, which is unusual, and a couple of Phillip's and flat head drivers. Cost: $8
To ensure I dont lose parts (done that too) I have two magnetic trays from Smith n' Edward's Country Store, a local yee-hah Wesrtern/cowboy/huntin' finshin'/mil-surplus super store. Cost $0.99, BOGO.
For a mat I bought a cheap kickboard, as is used to aid swimming instruction, and carved out pockets on the sides to hold the magnetic trays, then shaved the middle so there was a depression to work in, like a shallow bowl. Or more aptly, like a rectangular dinner plate. The foam was a bit soft I thought, so I used a torch to gently toast the depression, which formed a tougher top layer; I then smoothed it with a mounted razorblade tool. What's great about the board is I can jam stuff in it anywhere to keep track of it for a min, like a Torx bit or second knife. Cost: $7.99 at Big 5 SG. I should probably add something to the bottom to prevent it sliding.
Most blades dont need too much oiling up here on the arid steppe, but it never hurts and it keeps fingerprints and dust off. For that, I like a classic: Tsubaki oil, derived from the Japanese hinoki tree. I hate people who think that whatever samurai were doing in 1550 was the best blade practice and can never be improved upon, never, ever, ahmen, but in this case, the oil used by samurai for centuries on their blades really is great. Its light, mostly odorless, totally non-toxic (it's also used for cooking, and as a hair tonic, though get the ones labeled food/cosmetic grade if you do that), and if applied lightly, left for a bit, then gently wiped, the oil leaves a perfect, ultra-thin layer that repels prints and light dust. Cost: $13 on Amazon for bottle that might outlast you. And it comes with some sort of little Japanese magic eraser for steel--gently removes rust and not blade steel; a must-have for satin CPM M4 owners.
Lastly, the lube. I've tried everything, and I'll tell you my conclusion: you dont need it, and probably shouldn't use it. There are some exceptions, like Sabenzas, which are actually built to hold lubricant around the pivot, and are torqued down as tightly as they are with the expectation they'll remain properly greased up. But most well-built knives dont need it, and if fine dust gets inside a knife's moving parts, lubricant becomes the glue holding the sand on the paper, which scours the knife's hardware, or worse. And I've learned its definitely a mistake to grease up a brand new knife just because the detent feels too strong, so the blade hard to deploy. The parts need to wear and break in, which is only hampered by making said parts slicker. Give a knife a chance, like a cpl weeks, at least, before you grease it up.
That said, I still keep a bit of lubricant on hand, just in case. Nano is great, no question; I like CRK (speaking of Sabenzas) fluoronated lubricant, and hate Sentry Tuff-Glide. BladeHQ swears by that stuff, but it's supposed to repel dirt but...it doesn't. At all. For me, anyhow; maybe I had a bad batch. What I use these days is Blaster PB-50 Multi-Purpose Lubricant with Teflon fluoropolymer. A poor man's CRK lube. Cost: $2.79 for the small can, $5.99 for the giant one (it doesnt come with one of those red dispenser tubes, so help yourself to one off the nearby WD-40, just turn that WD can around so its obvious the tube is gone and some poor schmuck doesnt buy that particular can if he really needs one with the dispenser tube.)
Assuming the small can of lubricant is purchased, plus sales tax on everything, and that's what..?... say about $40 or $50? Theres some DIY with the "mat", but it wasn't hard and there are probably even easier ways to make something like that. I grabbed what was in front of me. Or get a branded one for free with purchases over certain amounts at knife shops.
I dont mean to cast aspersions upon the new MD kit here--if you can afford it, get it. It's nice. But if you've spent so much on knives theres nothing left for knife maintenance tools, you have less costly options, so get some of those, because knives are like cars: everyone should be able to change a flat and at least know when the warning light is serious enough to warrant calling a professional.
Hatuletoh
850
Jan 14, 2019
Sort of. I live in the Salt Lake City, and we prefer to think of ourselves as the properly diverse residents of a free American city-state, separate from, if surrounded by, the weird homogeneity that is Utah. Where people are about 80% all the same religion and about 75% of them vote Republican every single time, no matter how incompetent or criminal the candidate. And I'm not advocating that Democrats are inherently better than Republicans, I'm just suggesting that things work better when the best candidate wins, and one party doesn't feel they can do anything they please w/o political consequence. Weird place, Utah. Other than going to BladeHQ and some favorite camping spots, I tend to avoid it.
stoutdog
305
Jan 15, 2019
HatuletohI took the que when you mentioned Smith and Edwards. I just live up the road in Bountiful.
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