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MonnoM
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Sep 15, 2018
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Man, I really want these but I can't justify buying them unless they'd work while out & about, on public transit etc. How disruptive is the sound leakage to others? Could I listen to these at a moderate volume on a bus without being an asshole? Maybe I'm just Canadian, but these are the things that keep me up at night. Sorry! ;)
Sep 15, 2018
mattris
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Sep 15, 2018
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The HD58X have an open-back design. Not only would you have to turn up the music to ear-damaging levels to hear it, but you would disturb those around you.
For use on public transit, you need an around-ear, closed-back headphone. What's your budget? What's more important to you: sound isolation or sound quality?
Sep 15, 2018
Every1LovesEddy
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Sep 15, 2018
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It really isn’t too bad unless you max out your volume. I bought my to be at at home headphone but now I’m gonna use this for my on the go set and get the 6xx for my home headphone. You won’t be Disappointed!
Sep 15, 2018
HIFI778
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Sep 16, 2018
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These are more speakers then headphones and when you go out and about will make people turn heads.... If u dont mind letting everybody know what u listening and being in the centre of attention not problem I guess.... For me the experiment failed miserably...
Sep 16, 2018
MonnoM
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Sep 17, 2018
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Thanks for the input everyone. Spoiler alert: I bought them anyway because life is short and experimenting with good sound is always the right choice.
Sep 17, 2018
Eli35
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Sep 18, 2018
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This, while being true open-back headphones, offer mild noise isolation, specially if you don't take off the foams under the grills (you should at least try that simple mod, they say it opens up the sound, and it's reversible so why not trying). At moderate volume, they won't leak too much, but they won't isolate you from outside noises anyways, so moderate volume is not viable in noisy environments unless you just feel like having some background music.
Sep 18, 2018
mattris
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Sep 18, 2018
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I hope you enjoy your 58X purchase. But please be advised: Listening "to these at a moderate volume on a bus without being an asshole" will not be possible... unless no one is remotely near you. And even if you don't care about annoying/disturbing others, you will find that noise isolation will be almost non-existent... so you'll have to turn up the volume to ear-damaging levels. Your 58X will end up being at-home headphones.
Given a high-quality source, the 58X will really shine. To get substantially better sound than practically every device's on-board headphone jack, I recommend that you purchase a DAC/amp combo unit - specifically the FiiO Q1 mkII. It's plug-and-play compatible with iOS (iPhone) and has a balanced-out. If you're willing to spend more... and/or want a desktop DAC/amp, reply here. I'm sure you'll get a few model recommendations. After a DAC/amp, I predict your next portable audio purchase will be an around-ear, closed-back, noise cancelling, headphone for (successful) portable use.
Sep 18, 2018
MonnoM
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Sep 21, 2018
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Ha, I've just started nosing around Schiit & FiiO's offerings and already feel like "how deep does this rabbit hole go?"
Right now I've got the xDuoo 3ii & ATH-M50x for portability, and the sound the M50s are giving me isn't what I'm after. To put it mildly. I've got a few possible replacements in mind, (including the M40s) but I'm open to recommendations.
Sep 21, 2018
mattris
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Sep 21, 2018
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My closed-back headphones are the Sivga SV006 with the standard Brainwavz pleather pads installed. I would bet that this combo is the best value in headphones for ~$100. The sound and comfort is that good. EDIT: I now use Brainwavz XL Perforated Pleather or XL MicroSuede in my SV006. The BossHifi B8 headphones are even more spacious-sounding and have less clamp.
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Sep 21, 2018
dwane5
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Sep 21, 2018
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The hole or whole never ends. Welcome to the never-ending journey.
Sep 21, 2018
MonnoM
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Sep 23, 2018
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Sep 23, 2018
dwane5
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Sep 24, 2018
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dont think this is a great on the go option. and sound will leak,. especially if u remove the cushioning in the ear cups
Sep 24, 2018
MonnoM
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Sep 24, 2018
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Yeah no, I totally get that. I just decided to buy them anyway and keep 'em at home. Still exploring closed-back options for on the go to replace the ATH-M50x. Luckily I have a friend who wants to buy them at cost. At this point I'm 95% likely going to go with those SIVGA SV006's, after I test a couple others in person. Still open to suggestions if you got any.
Sep 24, 2018
MonnoM
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Sep 24, 2018
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The build quality & materials used on these things legitimately has me in shock- especially for the price. How do you feel about their soundstage and 'flatness'? Based on a couple reviews I read I feel like they might still be more V shaped than I like. Tbh, I'm willing to spend $50, (dare I say $100?) more for natural, detailed sound with a good sense of openness. The m50s are too fatiguing for me; they have their niche, (well-produced electronic imo) but listening to them most often feels like overly-coloured music being slammed into the centre of my brain- minus the mids. Frustrating rather than enjoyable.
Sep 24, 2018
mattris
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Sep 24, 2018
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Yes, the build quality & materials on all of SIVGA's headphones is legitimately impressive, especially for their retail price of $90. There isn't a hint of the headband/yoke mechanism breaking, and the earcups are, indeed, made of smooth-to-the-touch wood.
I'm listening to my SV006s as I type this. As I mentioned before, I exchanged their (mostly on-ear) stock pads with Brainwavz oval pleather pads... for significantly better sound isolation and comfort.
Of the dozen (or so) above-average closed-back headphones that I've heard in recent years, the soundstage of the SV006 is among the best. I wouldn't want it any wider. Imaging is excellent, and their 'sense of openness' is above average... for a closed-back headphone, of course.
As for their sound signature with the Brainwavz pads... Treble is near-perfect, but unfortunately, their bass is a bit north of what I'd consider neutral. For pop music and general listening, this bass boost would be appreciated by most. But for orchestral/instrumental music, the extra bass too much for me. So I use (brandless clones of) Brainwavz hybrid pads, which provide a bit more 'air' to the sound. I also use Equalizer APO to shape the frequency response exactly to my liking, but I would understand you wanting to avoid EQ to get a fully neutral-sounding headphone.
Just so you know... I'll be conducting an extensive review of all of Brainwavz' XL (round) earpads very soon. Perhaps their perforated pleather or micro-suede models will be ideal with the SV006 to get a spacious, neutral sound signature without EQ.
Sep 24, 2018
MonnoM
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Sep 25, 2018
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Thanks for your thoughtful reply, that's a really good point about customizing the sound signature with different pads.
Sep 25, 2018
mattris
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Sep 25, 2018
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Your welcome. Most people associate aftermarket pads with changing/improving comfort. But they dramatically affect the perceived sound of a headphone, acting as the 'room' for the drivers - in conjunction with the earcups and internal dampening materials.
Generally speaking, real leather pads will decrease soundstage and treble but add bass. Perforated - or hybrid - pads increase treble response and soundstage/air but decrease bass.
Like their build, I can tell the drivers SIVGA selected for their headphones are of a higher grade. They are capable of excellent detail retrieval and have a balanced sound signature. Unfortunately, their stock pads are just not good at all.
I also own SIVGA's SV003 and SV007 models - both different from each other and the SV006. The closed-back SV003 sounds quite neutral with Brainwavz oval pleather pads. Hybrid pads give them more 'air' and treble (and comfort in the form of breathablity) but decrease bass relative to the pleather pads. For instrumental/orchestral music, the SV003/hybrid pad combo is the best I've heard... the category of low-cost, closed-back headphones, without EQ. I'm curious to hear how they fare with the official Brainwavz XL (round) hybrid pads, especially considering that the SV003 earcups are also round.
I will briefly post my Brainwavz XL pad review/comparison findings in this thread... and more fully on the most popular headphone discussion forum.
Sep 25, 2018
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