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RH Preyda Deluxe Honing Kit
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The Deluxe Honing Kit from RH Preyda features a set of 100-percent natural Arkansas sharpening stones, which are quarried by hand to ensure the utmost quality. Scaled for convenient storage, each kit comes in a custom wooden box and includes a 4-ounce bottle of honing oil Read More
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keyboard_arrow_downSurefire
151
Apr 26, 2016
So I'll need these stones, and then leather for stromping? (I can't remember the word, sounds German). I'm new to knives so... Can you just sharpen using these? My knife has S35VN steel.
Hm, then I also need something to file the stone flat, too? Then honing oil, then anti-rust oil, then who knows what else lol. I've never realized how extensive owning a good knife can be. *sign*
Surefire
151
Apr 29, 2016
Thanks, spine flip Eh? I'll have a look. Thank you all for your generous advices. :)
RidevaDemocritus
360
Apr 29, 2016
SurefireMaybe 'flip' isn't the right word... But youre bringing the blade towards you, spine of the blade facing you, and you then rotate the blade ON the spine so the edge of the blade is facing you as you push it away.
Jasril
227
Apr 25, 2016
Are these stones solid mined novaculite, or made from compressed Novaculite fragments/dust and a bonding agent?
wibbles
114
Apr 25, 2016
I know it's potentially a big "if" here, but judging by the striations in the pictures alone, it looks like these are solid stone and not compressed dust and bonding agent.
May be totally wrong. Still went in on the drop lol
May be totally wrong. Still went in on the drop lol
Dermott
267
Nov 29, 2016
krayziehustlerThe hard black stone can be used as an initial hone for a straight razor; it's exactly the same thing as the "surgical black" stone mentioned above (see here for more info: http://www.danswhetstone.com/stone_grades_101.htm). I used mine to touch up a straight razor I picked up from an antique store recently. You would not want to use anything other than the hard black stone from this kit on a razor...
Given the delicate nature of the blade, you want to be very gentle, pulling rather than pushing the blade. Since these aren't synthetic stones, you can get a finer and finer edge by gradually reducing the amount of pressure when honing. Finishing a razor, think of brushing dust away with a feather...
At any rate, I was able to shave with it when I was done. A strop would have been a nice addition, but it certainly wiped beard off my face.
Given the delicate nature of the blade, you want to be very gentle, pulling rather than pushing the blade. Since these aren't synthetic stones, you can get a finer and finer edge by gradually reducing the amount of pressure when honing. Finishing a razor, think of brushing dust away with a feather...
At any rate, I was able to shave with it when I was done. A strop would have been a nice addition, but it certainly wiped beard off my face.
Dermott
267
May 29, 2017
DermottLink above is no longer valid, due to Dan's reorganizing their site.
Looks like the current version of the page lives here: https://www.danswhetstone.com/information/stone-grades-101/
I've been honing razors on a hard black/surgical stone for about 8 months now, with good success. Having been using a good strop since Christmas, I'd now list that as "freaking necessary" instead of a "nice addition", but I think the above comment still stands.
I've been honing razors on a hard black/surgical stone for about 8 months now, with good success. Having been using a good strop since Christmas, I'd now list that as "freaking necessary" instead of a "nice addition", but I think the above comment still stands.
Lukehrli
0
Jan 22, 2018
Didn't see it answered yet, so I'll ask. What grit are the stones, or what grit does the set range from?
Dermott
267
Mar 30, 2020
If I were buying new, again? I'd be looking at Dan's wide bench stones.
They're more expensive, but you get a LOT more surface area. The wider stones are much easier on long knives, like chef knives. 10" blade on a <2 inch stone is just... not fun.
Get at least the soft Arkansas in the extra wide format, since that's where you'll spend a lot of your sharpening time. The finer stones are pretty cost prohibitive in the 3" wide format, so I'd step down to 2" standard bench stones for those. Don't be afraid of the 1/2" thick stones. You're not going to wear them out like you would a Japanese stone.
6" length is fine. 8" is better, but it's a price/niceness problem...
ETA: Arkansas stones can seem a bit expensive, but they'll last you forever.
Don't be afraid of getting JUST the soft Arkansas stone. You can sharpen everything you need, short of a razor on it, to paper-popping. It's plenty good enough for kitchen work.
Once you're dissatisfied with that, or if you just enjoy sharpening, add finer stones as you have the cash and inclination.
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Stefanie
1
Oct 20, 2016
My experience is similar. The lid and box are both dirty and the box has a crack in it, it appears damaged and I'm not confident in the structure of the box. Everything inside appears fine and undamaged. I can also confirm the lid doesn't have any recesses or notches to lock into place, which wouldn't be a big deal and I could buy hinge hardware for it if it wasn't damaged. Pretty disappointed overall. :\
JonasHeineman
5987
Nov 24, 2016
StefanieHey Stefanie -- The vendor takes good care to send items in perfect condition, that looks like it happened during shipping but I couldn't say for sure of course.
What I do know for sure is that both Massdrop and RH Preyda want you to be 100% satisfied with your purchase, and we'd be happy to setup an exchange or refund if you file a support ticket by going to My Transactions in your member profile. Sorry about that, hope we can get it all sorted for you.
Also, great feedback on the boxes. The vendor is receptive to this kind of community input and I will make sure they know about both the condition of your item and the thoughts on box improvements. Thanks for letting us know so we can make it right.
What I do know for sure is that both Massdrop and RH Preyda want you to be 100% satisfied with your purchase, and we'd be happy to setup an exchange or refund if you file a support ticket by going to My Transactions in your member profile. Sorry about that, hope we can get it all sorted for you.
Also, great feedback on the boxes. The vendor is receptive to this kind of community input and I will make sure they know about both the condition of your item and the thoughts on box improvements. Thanks for letting us know so we can make it right.
Stefanie
1
Feb 19, 2019
JonasHeinemanI know this is a long time after the fact, sorry about that. I just wanted to say that Massdrop took care of me and sent me another one in perfect condition. Thanks guys, you've always done a good job making sure I'm happy!
ThatGuy333
56
Oct 15, 2016
Just got my stones
the lid to the box is quite dirty and it doesn't really fit, it just slides around on top until it hits a stone
also, I got the large kit - just to be sure - the white is the softest, the speckled medium and the black being the hardest?
The product could use a little attention to detail - the stones look good so hopefully their high quality
JonasHeineman
5987
Nov 24, 2016
Currently doing the same thing with my RH Preyda Combination Bench Stone box, and I will be passing this info to the vendor.
JonasHeineman
5987
Nov 24, 2016
ThatGuy333Best advice is to trust your hands, which you seem willing to do if you're sharpening a knife freehand :)
These stones are all quarried by hand and cut to order for the Massdrop community on every drop, so they vary in color. However, you are correct that white should be the softest and black should be the hardest and mixed should be in between.
Hope that helps.
These stones are all quarried by hand and cut to order for the Massdrop community on every drop, so they vary in color. However, you are correct that white should be the softest and black should be the hardest and mixed should be in between.
Hope that helps.
FVYellowbird
4
Aug 27, 2016
Be careful on this drop. I ordered last time and one of my stones arrived cracked. went back and forth with MD trying to get a replacement stone or kit. 3+ weeks ago they said they'd contact the maker, silence since then. I've emailed them twice this past week, no joy. Seems like with these being offered again there'd be an easy fix, just replace the whole set. Not happy with the whole process or the customer service at this point...ETA, unlike with Pahani in the post above, MD seems unwilling to fix this problem.
Mcurty10
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RHPreyda_Michael
Aug 30, 2016
FVYellowbirdas soon as my office sends it to me i will get in contact with you. thanks for your patients
aZhu
15
Apr 25, 2016
What is the benefit of the large kit? Sorry it's a noob question but what does the hard black stone do vs the hard white stone?
stuartkoh
20
Dec 18, 2018
I bought a couple of RH Preyda stones a while back and found that they hadn't been cut properly so as to have right angles and the surface on one of them wasn't even flat.
I wound up selling those stones to someone who was willing to work on them to get them usable. I bought stones from another vendor and have been much happier with them. (I went with a vendor that's actually in Arkansas and owns their quarry there.)
I would also recommend that anyone looking to buy whetstones get at least 8" stones unless you're looking for something portable to use in the field or something. 5" is too short for most blades, and 6" is only a bit better. It doesn't matter as much if you are sharpening really small blades, but even there it's much easier if you can get used to making a full stroke without having to worry about running off the end of the stone.
Dermott
267
Sep 15, 2020
Hmm... Coticule isn't a very similar stone.
Please post pictures, here, of your defective Preyda's, so the rest of us can benefit from your experience. I'm sorry you had a poor experience... I love Arkansas stones, but poor quality ones are VERY frustrating.
Razor36801
0
Mar 24, 2021
DermottDear Dermott If also you have had the same bad experience there is no reason to prove what I told. Others people don't need to see the stone also because usuall people believe in reviews without evident interest in say things not true. So I can't understand your request!🙄😵😒 It looks strange and with no reason . I speak about a conversation not recorded and we are on a blog not in a tribunal. So you can believe me and have no reasons to ask proves. Coticule are different stone but sure not inferior! They costs also much more and are worked much better. Personally I have also the most expensive japonese wetstones and no one can tell they are inferior or superior without analasying the razor with a professional microscope! Take in count a Zeiss stereo costs abour 3000€. A study needs a good tecnique and identical parameters in the sharpening! Professional using microscope usually use artificial stones ib the beginning and for a more regular cut edge use a coticule or a Naniwa lv5'' that in good conditions costs 1000€!!!!and can be easily surpassed by a bench stones or other s natural stones with a perfect prifile like a Turingia! The insertion on these Japanese stones are often inside and you can damage the razor! If encountered. Best Regards
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